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Topic: Charlie Kirk (D)
81. Author:  jake89        
Date: Fri 12th Sep 2025. 21:41

NMCmassive, Fri 12 Sept 21:08

Great! Now you’ve got more of a reference for my question regarding Pakman! Even better that you both seem to share a lot of the same political views/beliefs etc So hypothetically, let’s say David was assassinated in the street… would it be okay for everyone who would prefer a right leaning government to either celebrate/insult David/dismiss it as no great loss?


Being honest, most people are indifferent. This whole "left wing", "right wing" stuff is nonsense. Most people are more centrist and it`s the extremists who are on those wings.

There will be some weirdos celebrating Kirk`s death, but most people in the UK don`t even know who he is or are civil enough to understand that death should very rarely be celebrated. Equally, there will be some absolute nutters calling for people to be silenced as a result of Kirk`s death. Unfortunately, one of those idiots is the leader of the USA!

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82. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Fri 12th Sep 2025. 22:09

I chanced upon a brief graphic video of the moment he was shot - surprised it hasn’t been pulled, maybe it has since this morning ?

America is heading down a dark road.

Post Edited (Sat 13 Sep 09:13)

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83. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Fri 12th Sep 2025. 22:25

NMCmassive, Fri 12 Sept 21:08

Great! Now you’ve got more of a reference for my question regarding Pakman! Even better that you both seem to share a lot of the same political views/beliefs etc So hypothetically, let’s say David was assassinated in the street… would it be okay for everyone who would prefer a right leaning government to either celebrate/insult David/dismiss it as no great loss?
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I wouldn`t know enough about his political beliefs to say I share any with him. If he was assassinated in the street, I`ve no doubt those who prefer a right leaning government would probably be celebrating, as they would have been fed the line he was some kind of left winger extremist. I`ve got to admit I probably wouldn`t be bothered, as I don`t know him, it would be no great loss to me

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84. Author:  AdamAntsParsStripe        
Date: Fri 12th Sep 2025. 22:36

I think for the vast majority of people over here, the whole thing seems like America’s problem in terms of:
Nobody had even heard of him over here.

America has the gun problem not us over here and they don’t see the irony of the 2nd amendment and free speech.

But it is a problem over here.
We’ve had politicians murdered just for having a strong opinion on something.

Tomorrow thousands of right wing people are taking to the streets and I just wonder where this is going to end up.

Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte


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85. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Fri 12th Sep 2025. 23:07

red-star-par, Fri 12 Sep 22:25

NMCmassive, Fri 12 Sept 21:08

Great! Now you’ve got more of a reference for my question regarding Pakman! Even better that you both seem to share a lot of the same political views/beliefs etc So hypothetically, let’s say David was assassinated in the street… would it be okay for everyone who would prefer a right leaning government to either celebrate/insult David/dismiss it as no great loss?
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I wouldn`t know enough about his political beliefs to say I share any with him. If he was assassinated in the street, I`ve no doubt those who prefer a right leaning government would probably be celebrating, as they would have been fed the line he was some kind of left winger extremist. I`ve got to admit I probably wouldn`t be bothered, as I don`t know him, it would be no great loss to me


I never asked if they would celebrate. I asked if you thought it was okay to celebrate/insult/dismiss it as no great loss.

Bernie Sanders made a statement without insulting him and his views are basically 180 degrees of anything Charlie Kirk said.

"I want to say a few words regarding the terrible murder yesterday of Charlie Kirk — someone whom I strongly disagreed with on almost every issue but who was clearly a very smart and effective communicator and organizer, and someone unafraid to get out into the world and engage the public. My condolences go out to his wife and his family.

The murder of Charlie Kirk is part of a disturbing rise in political violence that threatens to hollow out our public life. A free society relies on the premise that people can speak out without fear or humiliation. No more political violence."

☝🏻 that’s the stance we should be taking.

COYP

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86. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 10:20

This was a hit, watch the guy in the white behind Kirk, then the guy in the black shirt, then look at a pictoral of tactical signing.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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87. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 10:49

Bernie Sanders speaks a lot of sense, despite certain elements thinking he’s a delusional leftie thats too old for politics. Watch his dismantling of RFK jnr and you can see he is switched on.

There was another thing posted yesterday regarding people celebrating his death and being refused entry into the US - I don’t agree or condone it, but isn’t America meant to be the land of the free? Or is it only free if you agree with what their current president says?

Its a very confusing and hypocritical society over there.

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88. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 11:26

Dandy Warhol, Sat 13 Sept 10:20

This was a hit, watch the guy in the white behind Kirk, then the guy in the black shirt, then look at a pictoral of tactical signing.


I`m not one for conspiracy theories but I`d agree. Even while the guys behind him could be signaling to someone else, the fact that this young guy managed to get up on a roof unseen but then be so sloppy in his escape seems very iffy.

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89. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 12:08

Unseen? There is CCTV footage of this individual climbing down from the roof and I have heard/read the transcripts of the police communications as they scoured the area after receiving reports of the shooter, describing what he was wearing, height, and that he was carrying a rifle.
As for the fella supposedly giving hand signals behind Kirk, he`s Kirk`s long time friend and radio show host Dr Frank Turek.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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90. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 12:18

jake89, Sat 13 Sept 11:26

Dandy Warhol, Sat 13 Sept 10:20

This was a hit, watch the guy in the white behind Kirk, then the guy in the black shirt, then look at a pictoral of tactical signing.


I`m not one for conspiracy theories but I`d agree. Even while the guys behind him could be signaling to someone else, the fact that this young guy managed to get up on a roof unseen but then be so sloppy in his escape seems very iffy.


Every day of the week the white shirt guy signals "sniper ready" followed by black shirt guy "fire at will", clear as day.
Kirk had turned on Trump re the Epstein files and Israel regarding genocide.
If people think that`s wild, ffs there`s a convicted felon as president who hung out with a paedophile.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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91. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 12:26

The One Who Knocks, Sat 13 Sept 12:08

Unseen? There is CCTV footage of this individual climbing down from the roof and I have heard/read the transcripts of the police communications as they scoured the area after receiving reports of the shooter, describing what he was wearing, height, and that he was carrying a rifle.
As for the fella supposedly giving hand signals behind Kirk, he`s Kirk`s long time friend and radio show host Dr Frank Turek.


I mean he managed to climb up there and sit waiting unseen yet then did a very sloppy job of his escape.

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92. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 13:08

Yeah after murdering someone he was in panic mode. Up until then it`s all secret squirrel and James Bond fantasy. Afterwards with the screams and sirens blaring all-around he remembered he was just a twenty something loser who was obsessed with online culture and memes.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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93. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 13:38

If it was a hit, he could have been sought out by people, knowing that he didn’t have the right nouse to finish off the job post shot and would make mistakes and get caught……means the initial conspirators would be harder to find.

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94. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 21:06

Today I learned the word "groyper."

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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95. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 21:37

Wotsit, Sat 13 Sept 21:06

Today I learned the word "groyper."


A new one to me too. So why is a far right "Christian" murdering another far right "Christan"? Was Kirk not "Christian" enough? Maybe a bit too liberal?

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96. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Sat 13th Sep 2025. 21:55

Apparently groypers are fans of Nick Fuentes, an even more far right influencer than Charlie Kirk was.

Fuentes seems to be smart, charismatic, and he has peeled disillusioned right leaning Americans away from mainstream politics by pointing out some of the hypocrisies in Conservative political values (particularly on Israel and the Epstein stuff) and has used this as a way to further radicalise them. He has been extremely critical of Kirk regarding his support for Israel and his view that we should all forget about the Epstein files.

He`s basically a 4Chan Alex Jones who says "Jews" out loud in place of Jones`s preferred "globalists" dogwhistle.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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97. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Sun 14th Sep 2025. 09:20

So it’s either a professional government hit or nick Fuentes fans from 4chan?

COYP

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98. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Sun 14th Sep 2025. 09:36

NMCmassive, Sun 14 Sept 09:20

So it’s either a professional government hit or nick Fuentes fans from 4chan?


Who on here said it was Nick Fuentes fans?

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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99. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Sun 14th Sep 2025. 10:06

Wotsit, Sun 14 Sep 09:36

NMCmassive, Sun 14 Sept 09:20

So it’s either a professional government hit or nick Fuentes fans from 4chan?


Who on here said it was Nick Fuentes fans?


You brought him into a conversation about who killed Charlie Kirk same as others have done elsewhere on social media.

If you weren’t meaning to introduce that to the conversation, maybe you should have prefaced it first 🤷🏻‍♂️

COYP

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100. Author:  87Par        
Date: Sun 14th Sep 2025. 10:17

SusieQ, Fri 12 Sept 15:51

Quite simply he`s a Trump ally.

Trump blames anything negative on Joe Biden & his constant rhetoric is that the Democrats are to blame for everything.

He stokes the flames of political violence with his claims to the point where someone has now been caught up in that simply for supporting him.

America is utterly screwed with him in charge, and the rest of us aren`t faring too well either!


Id suggest the reason we aren`t faring well is because of this stinking Labour government and the SNP. Just my opinion.

RIP Charlie Kirk

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