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| 221. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Wed 8th Apr 2026. 22:35 Never bombed Saudi because of 9/11🤔 Reply |
| 222. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Wed 8th Apr 2026. 22:35 Whatever Oz. You`ve no comeback and now I know. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 223. Author: desparado Date: Wed 8th Apr 2026. 23:07 And as expected the bloodthirsty genocidal Zionist maniacs break the ceasefire with 100 targets hit in Beruit. Hundreds of civilians dead or wounded. Scum. What an opportunity we missed in 2014. Reply |
| 224. Author: Tenruh Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 06:43 OzPar, Wed 8 Apr 22:18 USS Liberty 1967 , Charlie Kirk and Epstein more dodgy incidents involving Israel. But there`s always someone trying to put a lid on it to the Zionists defence... Post Edited (Thu 09 Apr 10:44) Reply |
| 225. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 11:34 The One Who Knocks, Wed 8 Apr 22:10 anti-Semitism relates to Jews not Israel. Reply |
| 226. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 11:55 Nope Jake, not in the context of saying that Israel, as a Jewish state, is behind a whole host of international events, from 9/11 to the assassination of a prominent podcaster (the shooter of whom is already been charged and awaiting trial). It`s a common and historic theme of anti semitism that Jews are the masterminds of a global conspiracy to manipulate global affairs and dominate societies from the shadows. It`s been on the go for decades but gained real traction 100 or so years ago with the publication of the debunked and fictional `The Protocols of the Elders of Zion` which sought to scapegoat Jews for all the ills in the world. The UK government certainly defines what has been said in this thread as anti semitic. I`ll quote the government website. "Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities. In addition, such manifestations could also target the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for “why things go wrong.” It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employs sinister stereotypes and negative character traits." And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 227. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 12:16 You cant claim a claim about Israel, as a state, is anti semitism. That means any claim against the USA is anti Christian, or a claim against Iran is Islamaphobic. Do you agree with Israel bombing Lebanon today TWOK? Do you think that id a direct break in the ceasefire agreement? Yes or no answers only please….. Also, Trump has doubled down on his comments about NATO too. Can NATO just kick out the USA? 🤔 Reply |
| 228. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 12:16 LochgellyAlbert, Wed 8 Apr 22:35 This is a very valid point LA - why did the US bomb Afghanistan, rather than Saudi, who funded Al-Qaeda? Reply |
| 229. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 12:48 You absolutely can claim that an accusation against Israel is anti semitic when the claim against it is rooted and bathed in anti semitic tropes. I don`t agree with Israeli bombing of Lebanon not do I or did I agree with the reckless and unwarranted destruction and death they rained down upon Gaza. Well the US bombed Afghanistan because the organisation behind the September 11th attacks were based in Afghanistan. The ring leader of that group was Saudi as were many of the actual hijackers. So of course it makes perfect sense that Israel was behind the attack then yeah? Yes or no answer please to that please and also you think Israel was behind the JFK assassination? I`ll be honest that`s a new one for me but go on give your reasons. Charlie Kirk shooting? Even though the evidence seems pretty overwhelming who was behind it, nope, it must have been the only Jewish state in the world that was behind it along with all the other global events. You can absolutely criticise the actions and policies of Israel and its governments, I just have earlier in this post. What you can`t do is transpose commonly held sinister beliefs about Jews onto Israel (which is predominantly Jewish) accusing them of being behind tragedies sixty odd years ago, terrorist attacks twenty odd years ago and the actions of deranged guman not even a year ago. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 230. Author: Wotsit Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 16:17 Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. Which is why I`d suggest that it is antisemitic to claim that Israel represents all people who happen to have been born with Jewish heritage, or that criticism of Israel`s crimes (real or imagined) is also a slur against the great many Jewish folk who oppose the Zionist project. This includes religious as well as secular Jews. Ultra-orthodox Jews for example have a very complex relationship with Zionism and the Israeli state. “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” Reply |
| 231. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 17:08 Wotsit I value your input into this because you`ve always come across as well informed on subjects of bigotry and discrimination and made me question my own views on occasion. I don`t quite understand your post (which is entirely down to my own failings). I`ll put a fair bit of stock into your opinion so just give it to me straight. Am I wrong in thinking that when someone, as the poster last night did, accuses Israel of being the malign force behind a number of world events over decades, some of them seismic, which had a ripple effect causing hundreds of thousands of casualties and untold misery and suffering, that is very much leaning into the trope of Jews being a shadowy cabal manipulating world affairs? I just don`t think that when you are using a false negative perception of Jews that has been cultivated and nurtured by some of the worse people in human history and turning it on Israel, which is a Jewish state, that it is nigh on impossible not to take that as being anti semitic. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 232. Author: Back_oh_the_net Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 20:06 Your having a total mare towk if what anyone says here is remotely anti semitic in anyway do something about it like report it to the police if it bothers you so much but if you really want to keep playing the anti semitism card then don’t get upset any time someone accuses you of being Islamophobic when ever you say something bad about Iran Reply |
| 233. Author: Wotsit Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 20:09 Aye, reading back, Tenruh`s post definitely crept into the antisemitic dogwhistle territory tbf. Because it is one short post within a fairly long thread I think my brain chose to ignore the abhorration and move on. I am definitely seeing antisemites using the justified criticism of Israel recently as an excuse to engage in their prejudice online, so fair play TOWK for challenging it here. I think my point stands, but cannae deny that I picked a bad time to make it! “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” Reply |
| 234. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 20:47 Back of the net. Don`t be ridiculous. Wotsit,thanks for the reply and your honesty. It`s appreciated. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 235. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 23:16 Looks like I`m going to need to tell my Jewish mate that him and his whole family are anti-semites according to Pars fans. This is going to be awkward 😂 Not all Israeli`s are evil bastards but they`re run by a bastard and seem to have a higher proportion of bastards than other nations in the world. Being an utter bastard isn`t unique to Israel though. Plenty of bam nations. Reply |
| 236. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Thu 9th Apr 2026. 23:59 Does your Jewish mate think Israel was behind the September 11th terrorist attacks Jake? And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 237. Author: jake89 Date: Fri 10th Apr 2026. 09:23 Not that I`m aware, but he thinks Israel is a fairly evil state. He`s the second generation born in the UK. Reply |
| 238. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Fri 10th Apr 2026. 09:56 So Peston missed the big question to Starmer last night:- So where are the fully laden American bombers taking off from the UK going?🤔 Reply |
| 239. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Fri 10th Apr 2026. 10:10 The One Who Knocks, Thu 9 Apr 23:59 So if you don’t believe that Israel was behind those attacks, but do believe the people in power in Israel and the ones who support them are evil, sick, monstrous b@stards, are you still an anti semite? 🤔 Post Edited (Fri 10 Apr 10:10) Reply |
| 240. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Fri 10th Apr 2026. 10:21 You can think Israel is an evil state without that being anti semitic as long as the reason for thinking that has nothing to do with the fact that Israel is a Jewish state. Being critical or even despising Israeli government action isn`t anti semitic. Let`s face it, it is probably in most cases the only valid response to how they are behaving. However claiming that Israel was behind X global event/tragedy when evidence has already largely established the facts is anti semitic. It taps into a false historic narrative that seeks to scapegoat Jews for manipulating world events for nefarious purposes. Exchanging Jew for Israel in this discourse is a subtle or sometimes not so subtle way of perpetuating this harmful prejudice and is almost always done with that purpose in mind. Hopefully I`ve explained it succinctly enough this time because I don`t think I`ve got the vocabulary or ability to do it any better. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |