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Topic: Southport Incident
21. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 12:30

We`ve got sound bite "politicians" and idiotic social media mouthpieces who are a disgrace to the country.

Their approach is pretty basic - say something true but twist it just enough that it`ll rile the simple-minded people.

There is a real issue in this country with rose tinted specs. People reminiscing about times before they were even born! "Weren`t it great when Blackpool was thriving?" Yes, it was. Unfortunately, you lot decided it was better to spend a fortnight in Spain and THAT`S why it`s now a dump, not immigration! People go on about when we had high streets filled with shops but still order online and shop in supermarkets. The country is on its backside because of US not immigrants.

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22. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 13:30

The locals seem furious that the vigil yesterday descended into what it did last night. Im not surprised.

It’s sickening to use the murders of children to try and push a political agenda, knowing that social media lies will help it escalate country wide.

Maybe this lot should have been in Southend on sea fighting the machete wielding gang members rather than injuring 50 now police officers at the scene of a shocking crime.

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23. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 16:09

Farage seems to think the people in Southend aren`t following British values. I`m still waiting for someone to tell me what these values are. Last I checked not knifing people was more a common courtesy than a value. If he`s talking about history then the UK has quite an affiliation with knife crime, sadly.

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24. Author:  brian        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 17:44

Totally unbelievable. Our hearts out to the families.
Something you never recover from.

Definitely death penalty needed.

The people fighting the police is also unbelievable and needs to be sorted.

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25. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 20:14

Lest there be any doubt;

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1e8d7llg9o



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26. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 21:41

GG Riva, Wed 31 Jul 20:14

Lest there be any doubt;

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1e8d7llg9o


No point in repeating BBC articles GG, they think that the MSM are all corrupt and just peddling the news that the police want you to hear 🙄

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27. Author:  Bletchley_Par        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 22:05

Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 31 Jul 20:14

Lest there be any doubt.


I can only think you assume Marianna Spring is some sort of respected journalist or that BBC Verify is a credible fact-checking outlet, they are not.

Spring is a proven liar and fantasist and BBC verify get raitoed pretty much every time they post an article, this one about 3 to 1.

It seems many people and certainly the Home Secretary and Prime Minister are more angry at largely peaceful protests (their metric) than the murder of 3 kids and multiple others bring cut up.

Spring and the BBC want restrictions on social media and independent journalists because large swathes of people choose to get their news from them rather than the international laughing stock the BBC.




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28. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 22:32

Yaxley-Lennon isn`t a journalist. What he does isn`t journalism, it`s political activism with a camera aimed at radicalising Britain`s youth.

We just jailed one hate preacher to life. That seems reasonable for YL, given what his booze and coke-fueled supporters are doing to an already devastated community.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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29. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 22:34

There does need to be some kind of clampdown on X and other social media outlets. Too many people can just make up nonsense, with the intent of whipping up the morons who aren`t intelligent enough to realise they are being manipulated, as we have seen in Southport

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30. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 22:34

Bletchley_Par, Wed 31 Jul 22:05

Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 31 Jul 20:14

Lest there be any doubt.


I can only think you assume Marianna Spring is some sort of respected journalist or that BBC Verify is a credible fact-checking outlet, they are not.

Spring is a proven liar and fantasist and BBC verify get raitoed pretty much every time they post an article, this one about 3 to 1.

It seems many people and certainly the Home Secretary and Prime Minister are more angry at largely peaceful protests (their metric) than the murder of 3 kids and multiple others bring cut up.

Spring and the BBC want restrictions on social media and independent journalists because large swathes of people choose to get their news from them rather than the international laughing stock the BBC.


Case and point……..thanks Bletchley for proving me right within minutes 👌🏻

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31. Author:  Bletchley_Par        
Date: Wed 31st Jul 2024. 22:51


Topic Originator: Dave_1885 like
Date: Wed 31 Jul 22:34

Quote:

Bletchley_Par, Wed 31 Jul 22:05

Case and point……..thanks Bletchley for proving me right within minutes 👌🏻



No need to thank me, we both agree that the BBC and MSM have lost the trust of many people...or "them" as you call us.

Don`t worry, I don`t get offended by othering.




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32. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 08:22

Bletchley_Par, Wed 31 Jul 22:05

Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 31 Jul 20:14

Lest there be any doubt.


I can only think you assume Marianna Spring is some sort of respected journalist or that BBC Verify is a credible fact-checking outlet, they are not.

Spring is a proven liar and fantasist and BBC verify get raitoed pretty much every time they post an article, this one about 3 to 1.

It seems many people and certainly the Home Secretary and Prime Minister are more angry at largely peaceful protests (their metric) than the murder of 3 kids and multiple others bring cut up.

Spring and the BBC want restrictions on social media and independent journalists because large swathes of people choose to get their news from them rather than the international laughing stock the BBC.


I`m genuinely confused by your post, BP. Are you claiming the BBC is less reliable than some random rocket on X? I`m well aware that the BBC may be influenced by the government of the day, as was demonstrated during Covid, when information was modified on an almost daily basis. I don`t accept every BBC news item as Gospel, but I do conclude that their report appears to fit the facts.

We`ll find out soon enough if the 17 year old who was arrested in connection with the stabbings is a Muslim or not (not that that has any relevance)and whether the name circulating on social media is his real name. What we can ascertain, beyond any reasonable doubt, is that the dissemination of this information - accurate or otherwise - stirred the hard-of-thinking to mindless violence against the Muslim community and the police.



Not your average Sunday League player.

Post Edited (Thu 01 Aug 12:23)

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33. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 10:40

jake89, Wed 31 Jul 12:30

We`ve got sound bite "politicians" and idiotic social media mouthpieces who are a disgrace to the country.

Their approach is pretty basic - say something true but twist it just enough that it`ll rile the simple-minded people.

There is a real issue in this country with rose tinted specs. People reminiscing about times before they were even born! "Weren`t it great when Blackpool was thriving?" Yes, it was. Unfortunately, you lot decided it was better to spend a fortnight in Spain and THAT`S why it`s now a dump, not immigration! People go on about when we had high streets filled with shops but still order online and shop in supermarkets. The country is on its backside because of US not immigrants.


Why would holidaymakers opt for Blackpool when there was a much more attractive option available at affordable prices with far better weather and beaches in Spain - or any other country for that matter ?

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34. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 11:42

I think all jake is saying is that choices sometimes have unforeseen consequences which only emerge later and are often detrimental to other aspects of life.



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35. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 11:46

veteraneastender, Thu 1 Aug 10:40

jake89, Wed 31 Jul 12:30

We`ve got sound bite "politicians" and idiotic social media mouthpieces who are a disgrace to the country.

Their approach is pretty basic - say something true but twist it just enough that it`ll rile the simple-minded people.

There is a real issue in this country with rose tinted specs. People reminiscing about times before they were even born! "Weren`t it great when Blackpool was thriving?" Yes, it was. Unfortunately, you lot decided it was better to spend a fortnight in Spain and THAT`S why it`s now a dump, not immigration! People go on about when we had high streets filled with shops but still order online and shop in supermarkets. The country is on its backside because of US not immigrants.


Why would holidaymakers opt for Blackpool when there was a much more attractive option available at affordable prices with far better weather and beaches in Spain - or any other country for that matter ?


The point is that people look back with rose tinted specs to when the high street had the butcher, baker, candlestick maker and how much better it was but fail to appreciate it`s not like that anymore because society moved on not because people moved here from other countries.

We hear a lot about "British values" but no-one ever explains them. If they mean going to church on a Sunday and keeping a well kept rose garden then they may wish to look in the mirror before blaming other cultures.

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36. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 12:16

Indeed, nostalgia ain’t what it used to be 😁

There is now an anti Brit tourist mindset in certain Spanish locations, much exaggerated I suspect , maybe they are hacked off with immigrants as well ?

Post Edited (Thu 01 Aug 12:19)

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37. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 13:44

The guy has now been named. British born to African parents.

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38. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 15:44

Sad that it has taken so much "public interest" pressure to have restrictions on naming lifted.



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39. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 16:33

Should we be naming mass murderers at all in the media given how often they are motivated by notoriety?

Does it serve the public interest to know the names of mass killers?

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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40. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 16:38

Wotsit, Thu 1 Aug 16:33

Should we be naming mass murderers at all in the media given how often they are motivated by notoriety?

Does it serve the public interest to know the names of mass killers?


That`s a good point, Wotsit. There`s also the fact that he`s a minor in legal terms and they`re not normally named. So much for the rockets on X who gave him a Muslim name and gave the far right English rednecks an excuse to riot.



Not your average Sunday League player.

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