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Topic: Southport Incident
41. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 17:20

Wotsit, Thu 1 Aug 16:33

Should we be naming mass murderers at all in the media given how often they are motivated by notoriety?

Does it serve the public interest to know the names of mass killers?


The only interest the public will have is that he doesn’t have a british name and isn’t white…..well, that is what Farage, Fox etc will latch on to and push on socials now.

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42. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 17:33

The anonymity question has long been a contentious issue - the accused should be identified whenever charged IMO.



Post Edited (Thu 01 Aug 18:02)

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43. Author:  Buspasspar        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 17:38

Two of the stabbed kids allowed back home Five now stable and Leanne Lucas has had life saving surgery .. Lets hope they all make a full recovery both physically and mentally

We are forever shaped by the Children we once were


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44. Author:  buffy        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 18:14

veteraneastender, Thu 1 Aug 17:33

The anonymity question has long been a contentious issue - the accused should be identified whenever charged IMO.


I disagree. Being charged doesn’t necessarily mean the person is guilty.

Releasing information into the public domain only encourages those of the mindset to take the law into their own hands / subject the person and their family to violence.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”

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45. Author:  parsfan        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 18:26

buffy, Thu 1 Aug 18:14

veteraneastender, Thu 1 Aug 17:33

The anonymity question has long been a contentious issue - the accused should be identified whenever charged IMO.


I disagree. Being charged doesn’t necessarily mean the person is guilty.

Releasing information into the public domain only encourages those of the mindset to take the law into their own hands / subject the person and their family to violence.


Yeah, but not doing so allows those with an entirely different agenda to name someone else and encourage "those of the mindset to take the law into their own hands / subject" a completely innocent person/community to violence.

It`s a tricky one.

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46. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 22:03

buffy, Thu 1 Aug 18:14

veteraneastender, Thu 1 Aug 17:33

The anonymity question has long been a contentious issue - the accused should be identified whenever charged IMO.


I disagree. Being charged doesn’t necessarily mean the person is guilty.

Releasing information into the public domain only encourages those of the mindset to take the law into their own hands / subject the person and their family to violence.


So when would/should they be identified - only if found guilty ?

If innocent and not named that would only produce more ignorant speculation with the pitchfork mentality rabble, same as recently happened.

You couldn’t allow press and public into the court for fear of compromising the identity.

Which would effectively be closed proceedings - with all the negative implications.

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47. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 23:24

Surely it depends on circumstances? In this case he has been named presumably because he is undoubtedly guilty, but also because not naming him is causing civil unrest?

Naming generally is a constant issue as it`s guilty even after proven innocent in many cases.

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48. Author:  Andrew283        
Date: Thu 1st Aug 2024. 23:56

Am I shocked that the tiny brain EDL wannabes jumped to conclusions? Not really.

Wonder how old 2 bricks to the head and 1 to the nuts is feeling right about now?

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49. Author:  saltonsgonagetu        
Date: Fri 2nd Aug 2024. 11:27

The EDL should have a show at the Edinburgh festival, hitting your own racist guy on the head and baws with bricks, shouting at the police in Hartlepool don`t come near me , I pay your wages with my taxes, then screaming like a toddler as you get bitten on the backside by a police dog , comedy gold from the right wing agitators.



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50. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Fri 2nd Aug 2024. 12:02

Andrew283, Thu 1 Aug 23:56

Am I shocked that the tiny brain EDL wannabes jumped to conclusions? Not really.

Wonder how old 2 bricks to the head and 1 to the nuts is feeling right about now?


Who can you mean, Andrew?🤔

If he`s who I think you mean, he at least has had the good sense to lie low after his crass contribution to the discussion on this thread. I don`t doubt he`ll be back once he thinks we`ve forgotten about it.



Not your average Sunday League player.


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51. Author:  buffy        
Date: Fri 2nd Aug 2024. 12:33

I think Andrew is referring to the bloke who was hit by his own supporters in the video shown online, GG

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”

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52. Author:  jake89        
Date: Fri 2nd Aug 2024. 12:48

GG Riva, Fri 2 Aug 12:02

Andrew283, Thu 1 Aug 23:56

Am I shocked that the tiny brain EDL wannabes jumped to conclusions? Not really.

Wonder how old 2 bricks to the head and 1 to the nuts is feeling right about now?


Who can you mean, Andrew?🤔

If he`s who I think you mean, he at least has had the good sense to lie low after his crass contribution to the discussion on this thread. I don`t doubt he`ll be back once he thinks we`ve forgotten about it.


41 years old btw. Absolute melt.

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53. Author:  Andrew283        
Date: Fri 2nd Aug 2024. 12:49

buffy, Fri 2 Aug 12:33

I think Andrew is referring to the bloke who was hit by his own supporters in the video shown online, GG


This.

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54. Author:  Neil_Philp        
Date: Fri 2nd Aug 2024. 15:02

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55. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Fri 2nd Aug 2024. 15:43

Andrew283, Fri 2 Aug 12:49

buffy, Fri 2 Aug 12:33

I think Andrew is referring to the bloke who was hit by his own supporters in the video shown online, GG


This.


Oops,my bad, Andrew. I`m on holiday just now and didn`t see the clip you were alluding to. Still and all, the poster I thought you meant has been mercifully quiet. 🙂



Not your average Sunday League player.


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56. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Fri 2nd Aug 2024. 23:21

He`s maybe busy planning terrorist acts with his real friends?

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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57. Author:  Andrew283        
Date: Sat 3rd Aug 2024. 03:44

Funny how the resident c**** on here go quiet when facts are brought forward. Poor bigots

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58. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Sat 3rd Aug 2024. 08:25

Who is being to referred to here?

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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59. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Sat 3rd Aug 2024. 09:19

The One Who Knocks, Sat 3 Aug 08:25

Who is being to referred to here?


Definitely not you, mate, so please relax. 😀



Not your average Sunday League player.


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60. Author:  Parboiled        
Date: Sat 3rd Aug 2024. 10:38

Oh dear..Andrews’s mummy over spooned his cocoa?



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