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| 141. Author: Wotsit Date: Sat 24th Aug 2024. 10:38 The spark in this case may have come from a Pakistani clickbait site, but the bonfire was carefully arranged such that one tiny spark thousands of miles away was able to set it ablaze without further effort. The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy. Reply |
| 142. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Sat 24th Aug 2024. 10:48 Anyone trying to blame a fake account in Pakistan for thousands of Brits causing utter carnage in England is away with the fairies. đ€Šđ»ââïž Maybe the Germans dont riot because their police officers are no nonsense. And carry guns. Any news on the planned demos against the men who murdered an Amazon delivery driver the other day in Leeds? Or has that one just gone under the radar? Oh no wait, the accused were EnglishmenâŠâŠand the victim presumably (from his name) a migrant. Post Edited (Sat 24 Aug 10:51) Reply |
| 143. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 25th Aug 2024. 03:59 Dave_1885, Sat 24 Aug 10:48 Germany has had riots about mass immigration since 2015. Things got really serious at the start of 2016 after the 1400 sexual assaults on New Yearâs Eve. It was big news. Donât you remember it? I donât know what your point is about the delivery driver? Iâm not sure if youâre just playing a brain dead game point scoring who riots and who doesnât or not thinking about what youâre saying? considering minorities in Britain have been rioting pretty recently for reasons a lot less serious than murder-never mind wee girls being murdered đ€·đ»ââïž COYP Reply |
| 144. Author: GG Riva Date: Sun 25th Aug 2024. 08:40 I see the Islamic State group has claimed responsibility for this senseless crime in Solingen, but have not provided any evidence to back it up. It`s also unclear as to whether the man believed to be responsible and now in custody, has any connection to IS. What I don`t understand is why IS would want to put fellow Muslims living in Germany in danger by claiming responsibility for this heinous crime, whether the perpetrator is part of their organisation or not.  Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 145. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Sun 25th Aug 2024. 10:43 IS couldn`t give two hoots about Muslims living in Germany. They killed Muslims they deemed not worthy in the thousands, often in horrific fashion, in their caliphate. If it stokes up anger against those who fled from them then all the better in their eyes. I read that the German police also arrested a fifteen year old who had prior knowledge of the attack so it suggests there was some sort of planning and/or reasoning behind this henious act. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 146. Author: GG Riva Date: Sun 25th Aug 2024. 13:09 The One Who Knocks, Sun 25 Aug 10:43 You`re probably spot on with your assessment, TOWK. I`m obviously coming at it from a far too logical angle. Going back to the Southport tragedy, I wonder what would have happened if someone had posted on social media that the killer was, say, Italian. Would the same, lynch mob mentality have manifested itself? What blame can be attached to innocent members of the community merely because they share the same ethnic make up or religious beliefs? I remember some years ago, when Rangers were knocked out of Europe, by one of the Milan clubs (can`t remember which) every chip van, ice cream van, chippie and Italian cafe/restaurant in the vicinity of Ibrox was trashed or overturned by irate orcs. đ Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 147. Author: jake89 Date: Sun 25th Aug 2024. 15:05 Regardless of who has committed any crimes, there are racial tensions all over Europe. There`s a lot of nonsense spread in the media but a big issue is people refusing to integrate, often because they`ll never be able to without being more moderate about their faith. Whilst there are very few true Christians, Europe is a Christian continent and the laws and practices are all broadly aligned with it. People covering their faces or needing time out for prayers isn`t the norm in Europe and likely won`t ever be. Damned by your religion if you do integrate, damned by the natives if you don`t. Reply |
| 148. Author: pars4life1 Date: Sun 25th Aug 2024. 16:22 Integration, or refusal to do so is a very interesting point to me, Its been pointed out that segregation in some form is natural. What does someone want when moving house? A halal butcher or a polish import supermarket maybe wanted for some in the UK, same as a good pub or chippy might be desirable for others. I don`t think that`s a problem in itself, but when different communities do meet, then how the react to each other is very important and that comes from all sides. Reply |
| 149. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 25th Aug 2024. 20:24 pars4life1, Sun 25 Aug 16:22 Both you and Jake making good points there. Iâm actually married to an immigrant. Sheâs been here since 96. Going to visit her family was a good lesson for me. Learnt a lot, not just about different cultures but actually how lucky weâve been in the UK/West. We take our comfortable lives for granted at times. 80% of the world doesnât have it this good. Itâs a complicated situation. We canât be all one way or the other. Open borders wonât work, closed borders wonât work. We need to have a feasible way for people to emigrate but we also need to limit those that we donât want. Sweden made a huge mistake with its policies but Denmark seems to have found a good solution for itself. Iâm not saying the Denmark model would work for the UK but it might be worth exploring why they made the decisions they did. COYP Reply |
| 150. Author: jake89 Date: Mon 26th Aug 2024. 11:02 It`s hard for us to interpret in Scotland as we don`t really experience it. The migration has been a lot smaller both in terms of economic migrants and asylum seekers. We`ve got the perfect storm right now - economic stagnation, right wing press, high migration. I`m not saying there aren`t issues with immigrants coming in, but they`re not the reason the country is knackered. It all goes back to those bankers the taxpayer bailed out. We`re now hammered by them as interest rates go up, hammered by privately owned public transport, hammered by energy suppliers. It`s convenient to scapegoat Kabeer from Pakistan or Kai the trans man. Reply |
| 151. Author: Luxembourg Par Date: Mon 26th Aug 2024. 15:07 NMCmassive, Sun 25 Aug 20:24 Sweden gaslit themselves⊠After a particularly good experience with immigration of (almost exclusively middle class and educated) Iranians fleeing the revolution and subsequent persecution in late 70âs and early 80âs. The Iranians I knew integrated, already spoke English, learned Swedish, intermarried with locals and were part of a very successful immigration experience for the Swedes. The Swedes kinda assumed that the next load of âAsylum seekersâ would be similarly thankful for the safety of Sweden and would be keen to integrate and further enrich the country. Unfortunately for them, instead of educated professional Persians looking to make a new life, they got mainly unskilled, ignorant Arabs who offered nothing and refused to integrate. Since then, we see ghettos being created, rising crime, horrific rape numbers - immigration integration failure. We are now seeing similar all over Europe, in Germany, France, England. So far in Scotland, we have been fortunate to not have so many incidents, mainly due to lack of numbers here - these people seem to prefer to congregate in bigger towns and cities further south.  Reply |
| 152. Author: Wotsit Date: Tue 27th Aug 2024. 15:43 The benefits cap alongside a desire to reduce migration sums up the wrong-headed thinking that populist policies bring. In a time of falling populations people want to both discourage the locals from having kids and prevent new people from settling here. It`s madness The way our country is set up means that we require a portion of our population to be ignorant and desperate. The only way that will change is if we pay "key workers" (remember that phrase?) much much more: at least enough that they can raise a family comfortably on 40 hours a week without relying on benefits. Until we are prepared to do that then we will rely on desparate and ignorant migrants for certain, crucial, jobs. The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy. Reply |
| 153. Author: desparado Date: Tue 27th Aug 2024. 18:21 As long as we stay part of the UK we are fooked..Nothing is getting better and wonât. The promises made by the red Tories have been proven to be a bunch of lies and the have only been in Gov for a few weeks. Starmer is right about one thingâŠ..well half a thing. The things are going to get worse part. What an opportunity we missed in 2014âŠ.. What an opportunity we missed in 2014. Reply |
| 154. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 28th Aug 2024. 13:37 Being in or out the UK doesn`t really matter when it comes to migration as we wouldn`t be able to deviate too much from UK policy so as to avoid border checks. It IS ridiculous though that we have a situation where only the really wealthy or really poor can afford to have children. At the same time we`re telling young, foreign workers to bugger off despite having an aging population. Reply |
| 155. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Wed 28th Aug 2024. 15:34 jake89, Wed 28 Aug 13:37 It`s alright Keir will sort it out in Germany today!đ€đ„Ž Reply |
| 156. Author: NMCmassive Date: Thu 29th Aug 2024. 03:20 Wotsit, Tue 27 Aug 15:43 Legal migration is the highest level itâs ever been in to the UK (we took in around 1.2million legally last year. Around 550,000 left) Through the 90âs we had a net gain of around 40,000ish year on year. A gain of 650,000 every year for our size of population seems excessive to me. Iâm all for immigration but not at a rate thatâs detrimental to the population already here. Also worth noting that just less than 40,000 illegal immigrants made it to the UK last year. Of course the boats make great headlines/click bait but itâs pretty incredible that the amount of illegal entries is now at the level of legal entries 20 or so years ago. COYP Reply |
| 157. Author: NMCmassive Date: Thu 29th Aug 2024. 03:33 jake89, Wed 28 Aug 13:37 Weâre not actually telling foreign workers to bugger off tho. Thatâs a wee bit of a myth. Yeah Brexit was a bit of a spanner in the bureaucratic works but thatâs basically been worked through. We do seem to be getting a lot more people coming from the Caribbean tho-Iâm guessing the old commonwealth state is something to do with that. We are squashing the middle class though. No point in owning anything as youâll just be taxed to high heaven on it. Just think âyouâll own nothing and be happyâ and try to forget weâve got a Labour leader thatâs recently been buttering up the WEF⊠COYP Reply |
| 158. Author: Wotsit Date: Thu 29th Aug 2024. 06:31 I suppose the folk whose tents are lining the doorways of Princes Street should think themselves lucky that they`re not in mid management roles, or they`d REALLY be suffering. The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy. Reply |
| 159. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 29th Aug 2024. 07:03 Brexit was a middle finger to foreign workers. Although the loss of European workers has been covered to some extent by non-Europeans, the shortfall is significant. As with anything, there are obviously cases of abuse, but migrant workers and illegal immigrants aren`t the issue. We need to tackle people spreading hate regardless of their religion or skin colour. Fake news is spread with no punishment. The government and media don`t care. Distract the common man from realising wages are low, costs of living are high, your public services are failing and your children will need to leave the country if they want a good life. Remember when people would buy a car or a mobile? Now these things are all so expensive that saving up isn`t an option. You`re paying monthly at a ridiculous price and don`t immediately notice the price hikes because it`s spread over 48 easy payments. You seem to have less and less each month but it`s not the big company`s fault. No, it`s Adil or Piotr. They destroyed "British values". Sadly, the reality is rich men destroyed these values and are laughing at you. They did an episode of the Professionals in the 1970s that I believe was only shown once. It covered how easy it was to warp minds and create racists by feeding a narrative the blacks were the enemy. The ending would have been very shocking in the 1970s but accurate. Nowadays some melt would say it was "woke". Depressing. Reply |
| 160. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Fri 1st Nov 2024. 02:37 The level of the coverup has been astounding. The Prime Minister, The Cabinet, The CPS, The Police and legacy media have all colluded to hide the fact this was an Islamist, terrorist incident. I think Starmer has enough of a stonking majority (with 20% of the vote) for him to keep his job, but under "normal" circumstances he`d surely have to resign.  Reply |
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