jake89, Thu 29 Aug 07:03

Brexit was a middle finger to foreign workers. Although the loss of European workers has been covered to some extent by non-Europeans, the shortfall is significant.

As with anything, there are obviously cases of abuse, but migrant workers and illegal immigrants aren`t the issue. We need to tackle people spreading hate regardless of their religion or skin colour. Fake news is spread with no punishment. The government and media don`t care. Distract the common man from realising wages are low, costs of living are high, your public services are failing and your children will need to leave the country if they want a good life. Remember when people would buy a car or a mobile? Now these things are all so expensive that saving up isn`t an option. You`re paying monthly at a ridiculous price and don`t immediately notice the price hikes because it`s spread over 48 easy payments. You seem to have less and less each month but it`s not the big company`s fault. No, it`s Adil or Piotr. They destroyed "British values". Sadly, the reality is rich men destroyed these values and are laughing at you.

They did an episode of the Professionals in the 1970s that I believe was only shown once. It covered how easy it was to warp minds and create racists by feeding a narrative the blacks were the enemy. The ending would have been very shocking in the 1970s but accurate. Nowadays some melt would say it was "woke". Depressing.

jake89, Fri 1 Nov 16:24

This appears to be a simple case of bureaucracy. It seems likely the deaths will NOT be considered the result of a murderous terrorist, but he may have an additional charge against him that WILL be considered a terrorist act.

jake89, Sat 2 Nov 08:04

NMC, the information regarding his parents is based on people doing a Google search of their name and finding someone who has the same name. I don`t believe it`s been evidenced that they were his parents, just that they have the same surname. Over 3000 people have that name. It may be it IS his parents but a big issue is internet "sleuths" finding something that fits their narrative and portraying it as fact. It then gets spread very quickly by a network of people who don`t question it.

If it transpires the people being suggested as being his parents ARE the people named then that raises some questions. The first being - why the f*** are they in this country?

wee eck, Sat 2 Nov 11:25

Folk posting untruths on the internet? Who knew?

desparado, Wed 6 Nov 08:43

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Wotsit, Tue 27 Aug 15:43

The benefits cap alongside a desire to reduce migration sums up the wrong-headed thinking that populist policies bring.

In a time of falling populations people want to both discourage the locals from having kids and prevent new people from settling here. It`s madness

The way our country is set up means that we require a portion of our population to be ignorant and desperate. The only way that will change is if we pay "key workers" (remember that phrase?) much much more: at least enough that they can raise a family comfortably on 40 hours a week without relying on benefits. Until we are prepared to do that then we will rely on desparate and ignorant migrants for certain, crucial, jobs.


Legal migration is the highest level it’s ever been in to the UK (we took in around 1.2million legally last year. Around 550,000 left) Through the 90’s we had a net gain of around 40,000ish year on year.

A gain of 650,000 every year for our size of population seems excessive to me. I’m all for immigration but not at a rate that’s detrimental to the population already here.

Also worth noting that just less than 40,000 illegal immigrants made it to the UK last year. Of course the boats make great headlines/click bait but it’s pretty incredible that the amount of illegal entries is now at the level of legal entries 20 or so years ago.


Are you sure they are all “ illegal “ ? I think you will find most are not…..if you claim asylum, you are not illegal……