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Topic: Two Tier Policing & Patriot Platform
61. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Tue 8th Sep 2026. 19:15

BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 19:12

NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 19:09

BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 18:50

NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 17:55

Antifa are self proclaimed communists.


And your point is, caller?



Estimates range from 20-50million killed by the communists in the Soviet Union alone.


A few beers, or post on here. Don`t try both, it`d not working well


You’ve no decent reply because there is no decent reply.

Communists and fascists are both just extremists.

COYP

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62. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Tue 8th Sep 2026. 19:24

parsfan, Tue 8 Sep 09:44

NMCmassive, Mon 7 Sept 21:47

Wotsit, Mon 7 Sep 15:42

You`re right Dandy, Far Right is the wrong term for those Fascist idiots besmirching their grandparents` anti-fascist actions in the 1930s and 1940s and their parents` anti-fascist actions to run the NF off our streets in the 1970s and 1980s. Punching fascists is a great British tradition.

Bletchley is correct for once - they were wearing masks to stop what happened to their movement repeatedly, and correctly, in the past from happening again.


The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.


Not comprehensive but people who call those who disagree with them anti-fascist would be a start.


Also doesn’t make sense.

Unless you want to play children’s games, then it might work. But at that point Hitler and Stalin were both Nazis since they shared the same beliefs on some things.

COYP

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63. Author:  ipswichpar        
Date: Tue 8th Sep 2026. 19:29

BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sept 19:15

Only you mentioned antifa, and only you mentioned communism. Neither are relevant to the migrant issue


Bletchley and Dandy have both mentioned it.

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64. Author:  Hoolie        
Date: Tue 8th Sep 2026. 20:25

So Dave 1885 stated we have deported thousand of illegals…where? They have no documentation so please tell? To their home countries where they have fled from?
Does no lefty’s want a peaceful life where they live in Britain?
So we deport thousands but why are we still letting them in? Doesn’t make sense.
All of us living and paying taxes in Britain need to stand up to the corrupt government now and say enough is enough…
I have no problem at all with migrants coming into Britain and getting jobs but these illegals are costing millions and have no intention of getting a job but a free life!
All mostly young men so what is going on? About time the people of Britain stood up and said that’s it…



Post Edited (Tue 08 Sep 20:27)

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65. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Tue 8th Sep 2026. 21:02

Hoolie, Tue 8 Sep 20:25

So Dave 1885 stated we have deported thousand of illegals…where? They have no documentation so please tell? To their home countries where they have fled from?
Does no lefty’s want a peaceful life where they live in Britain?
So we deport thousands but why are we still letting them in? Doesn’t make sense.
All of us living and paying taxes in Britain need to stand up to the corrupt government now and say enough is enough…
I have no problem at all with migrants coming into Britain and getting jobs but these illegals are costing millions and have no intention of getting a job but a free life!
All mostly young men so what is going on? About time the people of Britain stood up and said that’s it…


Its good to see you cherry picked one part, but then completely negated the real cause of the problem……

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66. Author:  Indiapar1        
Date: Tue 8th Sep 2026. 22:14

There are two fundamental issues with illegal migration that I can see with respect to deportation.

1. By the 1980s-2000s, the enforcement problem increasingly involved overstaying, false documents, clandestine entry and unsuccessful asylum applicants remaining in Britain. Asylum applications rose dramatically during the conflicts and instability of the 1990s and early 2000s, reaching about 84,100 main applications in 2002, before falling to around 18,000 in 2010.

2. The Channel-small-boat phenomenon is much newer. Significant recorded crossings began in 2018, with 299 arrivals. They subsequently rose to roughly 46,000 in 2022. In the year ending June 2026 there were 33,374 small-boat arrivals, accounting for 88% of the 38,086 detected arrivals through illegal routes. Of the 85,891 people claiming asylum in the year ending June 2026, 40% had arrived by small boat, but 41% had previously held a visa or other lawful leave. In other words, the asylum system and the small-boats problem are not the same thing.

A person arriving illegally is not automatically a failed asylum seeker. Under current UK law, knowingly arriving without the required entry clearance can constitute an immigration offence. But an irregular entrant can nevertheless make an asylum claim, and being guilty of illegal entry does not by itself disqualify somebody from refugee protection. The Refugee Convention itself recognises circumstances in which refugees may have entered a country unlawfully.

Once a person`s asylum application has finally failed and they have no other right to remain, the expectation is that they leave. But an enforced removal requires several things to line up: a final legally executable decision; confirmed identity and nationality; a destination legally permitted to receive them; a passport or emergency travel document; the destination country`s cooperation; the ability to locate or detain the person; flights and escorts; and no outstanding protection, human-rights or other legally valid claim.

This is why the EHCR is not the only barrier. Some countries can take months or years to issue passports or travel documents. There is also a bottlekneck in processing asylum claims.

There is therefore a substantial gap between the popular explanation—"the courts/ECHR stop deportations"—and the engineering reality of the system.

G Wardrope

Post Edited (Tue 08 Sep 22:18)

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67. Author:  Hoolie        
Date: Wed 9th Sep 2026. 20:28

How many millions of taxpayers money is spent on the illegals when it could be spent on the British people and helping them and we just sit back and allow this?….its our money we work for spent on people illegally coming into the country.
If you have no passport/documents then bugger of back to where you came from!
We don’t have a clue if any illegals have convictions for anything in their previous country..does this not worry anyone??
Depending on their culture/religion these men can sleep with 12/13 year old girls as Allah stated in the Quran…disgusting and not tolerated here.



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68. Author:  ipswichpar        
Date: Wed 9th Sep 2026. 21:35

Ask UKIP (now Reform) and everybody else who was pushing for Brexit.

They had all the answers before the vote, and thought it would be simple. That`s what generated most of this mess. Firing folk back to France used to be much easier. I suspect it was a lot easier for the French to deal with folk before they left as well, so it incentived them to be more proactive.

No doubt Farage will be looking for the easy way out now rather than more scrutiny on this point. Don`t worry, though, he`ll reappear just before the next General Election. Another part of his Hero`s Journey.

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69. Author:  Hoolie        
Date: Wed 9th Sep 2026. 22:11

Tbh I am not speaking through our government nonesense now. Brexit or anything to do with it doesn’t matter…if we don’t stick up for our country now Britain will be gone in 12 months time…and well done all the wee lefty’s with 3rd world country immigrants coming in..



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70. Author:  ipswichpar        
Date: Wed 9th Sep 2026. 22:31

Brexit and the changes the Tories made literally do matter. It is like putting on 10 stones and wanting to get up the following day and be able to run a marathon having allowed a French guy steal you trainers and running gear.

You`re going to be disappointed.

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71. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 10th Sep 2026. 07:31

I`m astonished at how little people seem to understand about how damaging Brexit has been for the UK.

Small boats pre-Brexit were under 10k. In 2025 there were over 40k! This has reduced slightly to around 38k but it`s still significantly higher than pre-Brexit levels.

So much for all the "control ar bohdahs" brigade.

The only benefit for Brexit voters is that the price of an avocado has risen. That`ll show those woke, snowflake lefties!

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