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Topic: McFake out!
201. Author:  Indiapar        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 17:52

I would imagine that all of the uncertainty over the ownership of the club must be difficult for those employed there.

I hope that this can be resolved soon for all those affected. At this stage in the season there is time to turn things around. For me that involves everyone pulling in the same direction. We aren`t the best team in the league and I don`t think we are the worst. Personally I believe we will improve so just have to keep plugging away.

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202. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 17:54

wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 17:41

First of all I have never said McPake should keep his job. I said to a friend after the QP game that the only thing saving him is the current uncertainty over the ownership of the club and I`ve repeated that on here. Needless to say this forum has a habit of misrepresenting people`s views.

We seem to have yet another criterion for success now - winning more games than we lose. Obviously that would be great but I don`t remember it ever being set as a target. On average you would expect the teams in the bottom half of a league to fail to meet this target each season. Are we to expect all these teams to sack their managers? The failure rate of managers is high enough already without pushing the bar even higher.


Absolutely if we are under performing which we are. The target was to get a cup run confirmed by cook in his recent statement at the fans Q&A evening. Despite having a favourable draw we failed no excuses we failed. We have continued the poor performances into the league campaign so why should he keep his job.

I get set certain targets at my work which are set out to me annually by my manager and area manager. If I fail and my team continues to perform below the levels set I will lose my job. Mcpake should be no different. We are out of the cup and potentially be out of another after Saturday and the squad is worse than last season as we lost Edwards.

c'mon the pars

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203. Author:  weemike        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 18:03

wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 17:41

First of all I have never said McPake should keep his job. I said to a friend after the QP game that the only thing saving him is the current uncertainty over the ownership of the club and I`ve repeated that on here. Needless to say this forum has a habit of misrepresenting people`s views.

So you agree he should be punted then?

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204. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 18:12

I don`t think it`s appropriate to make a decision now while there is uncertainty over the ownership of the club. When that`s resolved we`ll have to see how things stand but it will be a decision for the new owners.

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205. Author:  The Boss        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 18:12

Rusty Shackleford, Wed 09 Oct 16:31

The Boss, Wed 9 Oct 16:16

LEGEND85, Wed 09 Oct 15:54

Results are poor have been for ages.

The football on offer is dreadful and what worries me is both McPake and Hamilton both think Saturday was somehow OK or a step in the right direction.
The only positive was we didn`t get beat.

I`m really struggling to understand how on this forum some people seem positive.


Exactly this. I’m not sure if they just do it for attention to be honest. I think every other club in our division would have chased him out the door by now.


Pretty much no-one is being positive. They might have a different perspective but no-one is enjoying this. Doesn`t help if you patently don`t read posts properly either.


I did read it. It’s all empty questions though. What do YOU think we should do? Do you still back him? Do you think we’ve had value for money?

I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away


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206. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 18:20

wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 18:12

I don`t think it`s appropriate to make a decision now while there is uncertainty over the ownership of the club. When that`s resolved we`ll have to see how things stand but it will be a decision for the new owners.


We could be relegated by the time it’s resolved……

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207. Author:  weemike        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 18:21

wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 18:12

I don`t think it`s appropriate to make a decision now while there is uncertainty over the ownership of the club. When that`s resolved we`ll have to see how things stand but it will be a decision for the new owners.


Would you sacrifice our championship status because you didn`t think it was appropriate?

Where do we draw the line? Similar form until January? after January?

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208. Author:  KirklistonPar        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 18:31

I’ve been racking my brain thinking what might kickstart our season.

Going back to a 4-4-2 formation like we did to steady the ship and get off the bottom of the table last season.

A convincing win against Kelty Hearts at the weekend with 3 different players scoring goals to help boast the team’s confidence.

New owner’s coming in which could take away some of the uncertainty that is around the club just now as this will certainly be effecting all the staff.

Change of management, coaching but I don’t think that is a possibility due to money constraints. At least under the current management.

The only part we can really influence as supporters is getting along to EEP and giving the players our backing. Not that it’s an easy ask in our current form.

I will be heading over on Saturday for my first game of the season and I’m sure we can get a victory Need to try and stay confident that we can change things around soon otherwise what’s the point in going.



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209. Author:  CrossPar        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 18:45

The board will be forced to react if results continue like this because McPake has had a lot of patience from fans at matches up to now, due to the unprecedented injuries last season and the lack of budget provided for players at the beginning of the season.

Both these scenarios have passed. There are no excuses from here-on. It is his team, his tactics, his formations and his selections. He has good enough players to be doing better than he is currently doing. If it doesn`t improve, the fans patience will be exhausted, they will vote with their feet and make their feelings known at the games and the board will have no option other than change management or accept relegation.

And this old argument that we cannot afford to sack them is hogwash. Managers get sacked all the time in football. We are no different from other clubs in that respect.

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210. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 18:48

If the situation continues to deteriorate then that may change things but the hope is things will improve when the new signings settle.

Plenty hypothetical questions to me but here`s a practical question to those calling for him to be sacked now - how do you persuade the present owners to incur the expenditure necessary to get rid of the present management team and how do you persuade someone to take the job on given the uncertainty over ownership? Raymie asked these questions at 9:37 yesterday morning but I don`t think anyone has addressed them.



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211. Author:  KirklistonPar        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 18:56

The present owner’s obviously believe in McPake and that’s why extra funds were given to him to get extra players in rather than money to pay him off.



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212. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 19:01

wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 18:48

If the situation continues to deteriorate then that may change things but the hope is things will improve when the new signings settle.

Plenty hypothetical questions to me but here`s a practical question to those calling for him to be sacked now - how do you persuade the present owners to incur the expenditure necessary to get rid of the present management team and how do you persuade someone to take the job on given the uncertainty over ownership? Raymie asked these questions at 9:37 yesterday morning but I don`t think anyone has addressed them.


If we don`t act now and we get relegated which is possible when you watch what we are watching. Then we might not have any offers on the table and if we do it will be significantly less than if we stay up. I have said this before along with others if you care to read previous posts. That`s probably how you persuade them. How do you get a new manager to come in? Easy, you pay them. You can`t seriously be saying that guys would prefer to dip into savings or collect dole money than take a job here.

c'mon the pars

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213. Author:  Paralex        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 19:08

The past 5 games have been 2 wins, two defeats and a draw. That is a slight upturn on our earlier results. None of us are suggesting that we are ecstatic about that. But when the players and management appear to be doing all they can to turn things around and there is virtually no probability of any major change taking place right now, the grown up thing to do is to continue to give our best support and be positive where we can. Positivity rather negativity in our present circumstances is the best way to keep the management and players motivated. Booing and gestures of frustration are likely to demotivate.



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214. Author:  weemike        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 19:18

wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 18:48

If the situation continues to deteriorate then that may change things but the hope is things will improve when the new signings settle.

Plenty hypothetical questions to me but here`s a practical question to those calling for him to be sacked now - how do you persuade the present owners to incur the expenditure necessary to get rid of the present management team and how do you persuade someone to take the job on given the uncertainty over ownership? Raymie asked these questions at 9:37 yesterday morning but I don`t think anyone has addressed them.


The cost of not sacking him may be greater than the cost of retaining him. (Which I think the board will do as sacking him is basically saying the fans were correct, which goes against the gaslighting statement)

plenty of managers would apply for the job regardless of the ownership situation.

Hoping mcpake is suddenly going to transform this team is madness.

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215. Author:  weemike        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 19:24

wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 18:48

If the situation continues to deteriorate then that may change things but the hope is things will improve when the new signings settle.

Where do you draw the line?

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216. Author:  Paralex        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 19:30

Hoping an untried or previously unsuccessful manager ( for these are the only ones available) will suddenly and lastingly, turn our fortunes around is equal madness, but keeping the present management team is, in our present circumstances, the most likely scenario.



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217. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 19:30

As is usual in football you react to the situation you are confronted with from game to game.

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218. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 19:38

wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 19:30

As is usual in football you react to the situation you are confronted with from game to game.


I believe you haven`t addressed the earlier question from wee mike at 1924

c'mon the pars

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219. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 19:50

I think I have.

Is wee mike the judge and jury on here?

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220. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 19:52

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. In our case there are two potential insanities - keeping the same manager despite the same crap every week, or sack the manager again and expect someone amazing.

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