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Topic: McFake out!
81. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 15:17

Pars: weemike like
Date: Sun 6 Oct 12:41

`I`m sorry but this is alot of happy clapping nonsense.

We don`t look like a well trained side.

The team identity is one of slow turgid play.

Make no mistake. We are struggling.

Our only victory this season was gifted to us by a red card.`

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You`re mixing up two things there, weem. There`s what you think of our team. And a whole separate issue is what you think of other folks` posts, such as mine. `Happy clapping` it ain`t. It`s looking at the issue from a different side, as well as my own. A bit more from the side of the manager and staff of Dunfermline Athletic FC. Not just the view of a fan and forum poster.

What would you say is the opposite of happy clapping? Miserable clapping? Happy crapping? I agree, sometimes there`s nothing more satisfying, but once it`s out - flush it. There`s more to do than sit crapping all day long!



Post Edited (Sun 06 Oct 15:22)

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82. Author:  weemike        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 15:22

It`s not mixing up what I think.

It`s fact.

In no uncertain terms, we are $hit. And it stems from the training ground.

You can be in denial all you like.

But the results over the last 12 months speak for themselves.

Christ, the results in the league Cup this year before boardroom drama speak for themselves.

Do you think losing to two lower league part-time teams is OK?

How about 3 after next week?

Post Edited (Sun 06 Oct 15:22)

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83. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 15:27

Every goal we lose is dissected to find someone to blame it on. I do it myself, but the fact is we have conceded 10 goals in 8 games which isn`t exactly disastrous. Rovers, Hamilton and Airdrie have all conceded more. It`s at the other end of the pitch that our main problem lies and our difficulty in scoring puts more pressure on the defence to keep a clean sheet.



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84. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 15:46

Never mind weem, we`ll win one day - maybe even beat the mighty Kelty eh? I think a draw with Airdrie was disappointing but shows we`re not complete manure. Still, it takes more than just being better than manure to survive. What`s better than manure? Compost. That`ll be the next stage for us - to become as good as compost. Then? Topsoil!

`Topsoil is far better at retaining its structure.` There ye go. Structure is what we need more of. Get roond tae EEP wi barrowloads o` topsoil now!



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85. Author:  Paralex        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 15:53

Unless we are disciples of Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, no Pars fan is at all happy to be lying a hairs breadth from the bottom of the table. The problem lies in what is the best way to remedy the situation, without spending a fortune, (which we don`t have). Therefore why are we discussing a situation, which is purely hypothetical, and will, for very plain reasons, remain so? The boot the manager out brigade are just big talkers, with nothing to back up their empty rhetoric. Has the penny ( if we still have one) not dropped, that we can`t afford to sack the manager? Some "fans" seem now to be blaming poor training for the players being short of fitness, while others, last season, were blaming over training for players picking up injuries. I`ve never observed a training session but don`t have any reason to doubt that they are thorough and robust. Obviously we don`t like our position but unless some of the jokers who are shouting the loudest, donate a few million to the club, the best way out of it is for the management team and players to keep working away and for the supporters continuing to support.



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86. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 15:58

Can we afford not to sack him ? If we don`t we probably get relegated and end up losing another £1m. The German consortium will want to get as much as possible.

c'mon the pars

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87. Author:  weemike        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 15:59

I appreciate your optomisim and enthusiasm.

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88. Author:  Berkey        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 16:04

No one is paying the going rate to buy a championship club at or very near the bottom of the table after Christmas. The prudent thing to do would be to wait until safe/down then get back to the table to discuss value.

If we lost a million last time surely mcpake and 2/3 coaching are not earning even a third of that.

Add to that attendances dropping and they might be left with very little choice.

I mean at this point we could sack mcpake and give wotherspoon the player manager gig on temp basis without fear of it getting worse.

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!

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89. Author:  Paralex        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 16:35

Is sacking the management team and replacing them with an untried senior player more likely to stave off the threat of relegation? I don`t see that at all. In fact recent experience with the Crawford-Grant-Hughes debacle seems to indicate steady decline and not miraculous improvement.



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90. Author:  weemike        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 16:41

Paralex, Sun 6 Oct 16:35

Is sacking the management team and replacing them with an untried senior player more likely to stave off the threat of relegation? I don`t see that at all. In fact recent experience with the Crawford-Grant-Hughes debacle seems to indicate steady decline and not miraculous improvement.


Is keeping the manager going to get us up the table?

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91. Author:  DunfyDave        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 16:57

cammypar 1995, Sun 6 Oct 15:58

Can we afford not to sack him ? If we don`t we probably get relegated and end up losing another £1m. The German consortium will want to get as much as possible.


^^^^ If you don`t have the money to pay his severance and no funds to pay the new manager`s wages then "We can`t afford to sack him".

Unless of course the outgoings owners decide to dip into their own pockets which is highly unlikely considering their intentions to sell.

DunfyDave

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92. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 17:06

As soon as he starts winning, it clears up the majority of our issues. I just don’t see where a win is coming from.

Falkirk on the 26th. We’ll get a humping through there. I’m thinking if this board is going to sack him. It’s once we get pumped through there

COYP

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93. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 17:16

It would be illogical to sack him without giving a reasonable time to see the outcome of the investment in the playing squad they authorised.

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94. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 17:33

DunfyDave, Sun 6 Oct 16:57

cammypar 1995, Sun 6 Oct 15:58

Can we afford not to sack him ? If we don`t we probably get relegated and end up losing another £1m. The German consortium will want to get as much as possible.


^^^^ If you don`t have the money to pay his severance and no funds to pay the new manager`s wages then "We can`t afford to sack him".

Unless of course the outgoings owners decide to dip into their own pockets which is highly unlikely considering their intentions to sell.


If we go down to league 1 we will be -£1m for the season again like we were last time we were in that league worth remembering Falkirk were in the league then. It will cost the current BOD more money to go down than sack mcpake.

c'mon the pars

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95. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 17:36

wee eck, Sun 6 Oct 17:16

It would be illogical to sack him without giving a reasonable time to see the outcome of the investment in the playing squad they authorised.


We have already seen they are either unfit or no better than the others we have. Look at the table we are where we are because we are rotten. We have got worse some we beat Raith but yeah give him more time to get us further away from the rest.

c'mon the pars

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96. Author:  DunfyDave        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 17:39

Trust me CP1995, I get it. You make perfect sense but once again, if there is no money currently then you can`t afford to sack him (currently).

DunfyDave

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97. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 17:40

Mebude gets 20 minutes then the .net jury decides his fate.

Harsh

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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98. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 17:42

DunfyDave, Sun 6 Oct 17:39

Trust me CP1995, I get it. You make perfect sense but once again, if there is no money currently then you can`t afford to sack him (currently).


If your going to cut your losses maybe it`s a price worth paying.

c'mon the pars

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99. Author:  Paralex        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 17:43

"Is keeping the manager going to get us up the table."

No guarantees but more likely to than sacking him.



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100. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Sun 6th Oct 2024. 17:58

Paralex, Sun 6 Oct 17:43

"Is keeping the manager going to get us up the table."

No guarantees but more likely to than sacking him.


What are you basing that on ? We look like conceding goals every time the ball gets put into our box. Our strikers aren`t the answer to getting us the goals required to stay in this league.

c'mon the pars

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