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Topic: McFake out!
221. Author:  weemike        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 19:54

wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 19:50

I think I have.

Is wee mike the judge and jury on here?


To be fair, you haven`t stated when enough is enough for you.

You`ve dodged it like a politician.

Post Edited (Wed 09 Oct 19:54)

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222. Author:  Paralex        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 20:01

Insanity is also spending money we don`t have in an uncertain outcome and leaving us in a similar situation to Inverness. We`ve been down that particular road before and most of us don`t want it to happen again.



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223. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 20:07

jake89, Wed 9 Oct 19:52

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. In our case there are two potential insanities - keeping the same manager despite the same crap every week, or sack the manager again and expect someone amazing.


2 and a half years with the same manager isn’t really following suit though as thats a fairly decent stint at our level these days…

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224. Author:  Rusty Shackleford        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 20:15

The Boss, Wed 9 Oct 18:12

Rusty Shackleford, Wed 09 Oct 16:31

The Boss, Wed 9 Oct 16:16

LEGEND85, Wed 09 Oct 15:54

Results are poor have been for ages.

The football on offer is dreadful and what worries me is both McPake and Hamilton both think Saturday was somehow OK or a step in the right direction.
The only positive was we didn`t get beat.

I`m really struggling to understand how on this forum some people seem positive.


Exactly this. I’m not sure if they just do it for attention to be honest. I think every other club in our division would have chased him out the door by now.


Pretty much no-one is being positive. They might have a different perspective but no-one is enjoying this. Doesn`t help if you patently don`t read posts properly either.


I did read it. It’s all empty questions though. What do YOU think we should do? Do you still back him? Do you think we’ve had value for money?


There are no empty questions at all. There are two rhetorical questions in there, one of which you missed the point on.

I don`t know what I`d do because I don`t have a sense of the inner workings of either the dressing room or the finances. In magic wand territory I`d prefer an attacking outlook with a far quicker recruitment policy but these things are just ramblings when it`s not my business or money. I doubt an outgoing board who are seeking to recoup a loss of capital are going to authorise tens of thousands of pounds of further outlay and another manager search while they`re also going through due diligence on (supposedly) several potential new owners.

A minority of you just don`t live in the real world and get angry when a guy like Wee Eck politely and calmly chooses to disagree with you. On a forum. Whose primary focus is to discuss the club.

If it`s any consolation Raith Rovers are in full head-loss territory as well if you want to pass the time by reading their forums. It`s cheering me up a wee bit.

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225. Author:  LEGEND85        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 20:21

The real world is losing games and the standard of football is rubbish I`m able to tell this from attending games week in and week out.

That is the reality.

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226. Author:  Buster_Brown        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 20:30

"The only part we can really influence as supporters is getting along to EEP and giving the players our backing. Not that it’s an easy ask in our current form"

Although I`m not sure if I well head along on Saturday yet, I do agree with this



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227. Author:  Rusty Shackleford        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 20:40

LEGEND85, Wed 9 Oct 20:21

The real world is losing games and the standard of football is rubbish I`m able to tell this from attending games week in and week out.

That is the reality.


Yes, agree.

Also reality is our owners actively seeking an exit.

Two competing thoughts and situations. This is the essence of adulthood.

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228. Author:  weemike        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 20:44

Rusty Shackleford, Wed 9 Oct 20:40

LEGEND85, Wed 9 Oct 20:21

The real world is losing games and the standard of football is rubbish I`m able to tell this from attending games week in and week out.

That is the reality.


Yes, agree.

Also reality is our owners actively seeking an exit.

Two competing thoughts and situations. This is the essence of adulthood.


The balancing act is that supporters are starting to not show up week on week.

There must be a tipping point.

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229. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 20:48

Some absolute heads-gone roasters on here.

Talk about a witch hunt....

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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230. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 20:51

da_no_1, Wed 9 Oct 20:48

Some absolute heads-gone roasters on here.

Talk about a witch hunt....


It`s a fans forum maybe this type of thing isn`t for you.

c'mon the pars

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231. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 21:03

McPake going nowhere in the near future.

Clubs not got the money while going through the change of ownership.

4 separate investors are currently going through the process of looking through the club’s finances.

If all goes to plan someone will hopefully be in place this side of Christmas.

IMO we’re better to stick with McPake for now (unless it goes totally bonkers of course) aswe don’t exactly have the funds to pay off McPake and get in a new manager.

The new investment group will want their own manager in anyway so either way it’s only a matter of time plus it would be better to start a fresh with their new man rather than putting up with someone they’ve not hired/having to pay out for sacking a second manager

COYP

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232. Author:  The Boss        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 21:08

Rusty Shackleford, Wed 09 Oct 20:15

The Boss, Wed 9 Oct 18:12

Rusty Shackleford, Wed 09 Oct 16:31

The Boss, Wed 9 Oct 16:16

LEGEND85, Wed 09 Oct 15:54

Results are poor have been for ages.

The football on offer is dreadful and what worries me is both McPake and Hamilton both think Saturday was somehow OK or a step in the right direction.
The only positive was we didn`t get beat.

I`m really struggling to understand how on this forum some people seem positive.


Exactly this. I’m not sure if they just do it for attention to be honest. I think every other club in our division would have chased him out the door by now.


Pretty much no-one is being positive. They might have a different perspective but no-one is enjoying this. Doesn`t help if you patently don`t read posts properly either.


I did read it. It’s all empty questions though. What do YOU think we should do? Do you still back him? Do you think we’ve had value for money?


There are no empty questions at all. There are two rhetorical questions in there, one of which you missed the point on.

I don`t know what I`d do because I don`t have a sense of the inner workings of either the dressing room or the finances. In magic wand territory I`d prefer an attacking outlook with a far quicker recruitment policy but these things are just ramblings when it`s not my business or money. I doubt an outgoing board who are seeking to recoup a loss of capital are going to authorise tens of thousands of pounds of further outlay and another manager search while they`re also going through due diligence on (supposedly) several potential new owners.

A minority of you just don`t live in the real world and get angry when a guy like Wee Eck politely and calmly chooses to disagree with you. On a forum. Whose primary focus is to discuss the club.

If it`s any consolation Raith Rovers are in full head-loss territory as well if you want to pass the time by reading their forums. It`s cheering me up a wee bit.


I don’t think I’ve got angry at all. The situation is really becoming tiresome. People are entitled to their opinions but at the end of the day it’s majority rule and that’s what will eventually force him out. There has been a lot of managers over the years I would have kept be we chose to sack them. Them’s the breaks. The majority wanted them out so they were sacked. Fans will always dictate.

I didn’t ask you about if you were the manager or on the board. I asked you as a fan what do YOU think we should do? It’s not exactly hard to answer. Just the usual cop out on .net. Glad you’re sticking up for your wee pal though. Strange though considering I’ve bypassed most of his posts.

I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away


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233. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 21:44

cammypar 1995, Wed 9 Oct 20:51

da_no_1, Wed 9 Oct 20:48

Some absolute heads-gone roasters on here.

Talk about a witch hunt....


It`s a fans forum maybe this type of thing isn`t for you.


You`re a fan aye? Christ on a bike.....

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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234. Author:  Rusty Shackleford        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 22:42

The Boss, Wed 9 Oct 21:08

Rusty Shackleford, Wed 09 Oct 20:15

The Boss, Wed 9 Oct 18:12

Rusty Shackleford, Wed 09 Oct 16:31

The Boss, Wed 9 Oct 16:16

LEGEND85, Wed 09 Oct 15:54

Results are poor have been for ages.

The football on offer is dreadful and what worries me is both McPake and Hamilton both think Saturday was somehow OK or a step in the right direction.
The only positive was we didn`t get beat.

I`m really struggling to understand how on this forum some people seem positive.


Exactly this. I’m not sure if they just do it for attention to be honest. I think every other club in our division would have chased him out the door by now.


Pretty much no-one is being positive. They might have a different perspective but no-one is enjoying this. Doesn`t help if you patently don`t read posts properly either.


I did read it. It’s all empty questions though. What do YOU think we should do? Do you still back him? Do you think we’ve had value for money?


There are no empty questions at all. There are two rhetorical questions in there, one of which you missed the point on.

I don`t know what I`d do because I don`t have a sense of the inner workings of either the dressing room or the finances. In magic wand territory I`d prefer an attacking outlook with a far quicker recruitment policy but these things are just ramblings when it`s not my business or money. I doubt an outgoing board who are seeking to recoup a loss of capital are going to authorise tens of thousands of pounds of further outlay and another manager search while they`re also going through due diligence on (supposedly) several potential new owners.

A minority of you just don`t live in the real world and get angry when a guy like Wee Eck politely and calmly chooses to disagree with you. On a forum. Whose primary focus is to discuss the club.

If it`s any consolation Raith Rovers are in full head-loss territory as well if you want to pass the time by reading their forums. It`s cheering me up a wee bit.


I don’t think I’ve got angry at all. The situation is really becoming tiresome. People are entitled to their opinions but at the end of the day it’s majority rule and that’s what will eventually force him out. There has been a lot of managers over the years I would have kept be we chose to sack them. Them’s the breaks. The majority wanted them out so they were sacked. Fans will always dictate.

I didn’t ask you about if you were the manager or on the board. I asked you as a fan what do YOU think we should do? It’s not exactly hard to answer. Just the usual cop out on .net. Glad you’re sticking up for your wee pal though. Strange though considering I’ve bypassed most of his posts.


Weird last paragraph.

What do I think we should do? Who is "we"? The German consortium or the old Pars remainder? Like I said, it`s too hard to answer without knowing the facts. If you think that`s a cop out then carry on thinking it`s a cop out. I`m drawing on my experience of running a business.

For the avoidance of doubt because I feel like to have a valid voice on here these days you need to spell things out...I think we`re mince most of the time and I don`t like it. Rusty not like the football. Rusty not happy.

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235. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 22:55

If I`m being identified as Rusty`s `wee pal` can I just say that I haven`t a clue who he is and I suspect he doesn`t know me.



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236. Author:  buffy        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 23:22

Wee Eck, he’s LOVELY and a tv star too!

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”

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237. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 23:22

I don`t think anyone can be happy with how we play, the recent performances or the results. Some of us can discuss this without simply saying things like "the clown should be bulleted" immediately.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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238. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 23:44

NMCmassive, Wed 9 Oct 21:03

McPake going nowhere in the near future.

Clubs not got the money while going through the change of ownership.

4 separate investors are currently going through the process of looking through the club’s finances.

If all goes to plan someone will hopefully be in place this side of Christmas.

IMO we’re better to stick with McPake for now (unless it goes totally bonkers of course) aswe don’t exactly have the funds to pay off McPake and get in a new manager.

The new investment group will want their own manager in anyway so either way it’s only a matter of time plus it would be better to start a fresh with their new man rather than putting up with someone they’ve not hired/having to pay out for sacking a second manager


The rest of this thread is a load of rubbish, except for this post by NMCmassive.

There is no chance that we are going to sack McPake. He`s in charge at least until new owners are found. There is no way we are going to pay him off, and get a replacement in from another club who would be willing to come here on the off chance that they won`t get their jotters when new owners do take over.

So then we are looking around the out of work managers in Scotland. That`s a small and uninspiring pool - Steven Naismith, Craig Levein, Jim McIntyre, Ian Murray, Barry Robson

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239. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 23:58

I agree for the most part.....but if it gets worse over the next couple of weeks he could be removed and replaced in the interim by one of our more experienced players......Bene/Chalmers/Wotherspoon.

Arguably they couldn`t do much worse on current form.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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240. Author:  Berkey        
Date: Thu 10th Oct 2024. 10:12

Posted something very similar da no1 earlier in the week.

Punt mcpake if this continues and give bene or wotherspoon the gig on a temp basis (haven’t included chalmers as he’s only 30). The club might be more attractive without any severance for mcpake having to be priced in and we can put an end to years of quite frankly crap football.

The club needs a new direction both off and on the park.

I’m not sure mcpake has the ability to turn this round, results might pick up a wee bit with a few narrow wins but end of the day the way he wants to play would get football stopped and even now he doesn’t have the right players in the squad to make the difference.

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!

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