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Topic: McFake out!
121. Author:  weemike        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 15:04

wee eck, Mon 7 Oct 12:00

East Fife`s 5-0 win over Bonnyrigg was against 10 men. The man was sent off after 14 minutes for conceding a penalty and it was 0-0 at the time. Three of the goals were scored in the last 20 minutes. I thought wins against 10 men didn`t count in assessing a team`s performance? I`m sure I read that on here somewhere.


It`s the exact nature of this post specifically the 2nd half of it which is looking for an argument.

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122. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 15:14

It was an attempt at humour but I should have realised that was misguided on here. I still think it`s a fair point though. How many folk discounted our win against the Rovers because they had a man sent off?



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123. Author:  DJAS        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 15:15

I’m not sure how anybody can still back him tbh. Patience of a saint. I can’t see us getting rid of him with the current owners in place though unfortunately. Not been easy supporting us the last few years and it gets that bit harder when the temperature drops again!





Predictor league winner 2012/2013


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124. Author:  weemike        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 15:23

wee eck, Mon 7 Oct 15:14

It was an attempt at humour but I should have realised that was misguided on here. I still think it`s a fair point though. How many folk discounted our win against the Rovers because they had a man sent off?


Humour or not.

You meant that In the context it was taken as. You even double down it in your next few posts and even in the last post.

Fwiw, I have discounted our victory against rovers as it was against 10 men.

But the doesn`t change the fact that we should have a more attacking mindset. One that seems to be instilled at East Fife would be fine.

If they can do it, then why can`t we?

I believe our coaching staff is incapable.

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125. Author:  jake89        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 15:56

da_no_1, Mon 7 Oct 14:40

If someone goes against the negative clique on .net they`re always seen as being argumentative. Or a happy clapper. Or both.

Kelty will provide a stiff test. If we win, we`ll be given zero credit. If we lose it`ll be the usual pile on.

What a time to be a Pars fan.


If we lose to Kelty then heads should roll. That`s nothing against Kelty. They`re a very good team but they`re lower league. We should be beating them with relative ease.

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126. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 16:09

da_no_1, Mon 7 Oct 14:40

If someone goes against the negative clique on .net they`re always seen as being argumentative. Or a happy clapper. Or both.

Kelty will provide a stiff test. If we win, we`ll be given zero credit. If we lose it`ll be the usual pile on.

What a time to be a Pars fan.


Should all be forgiven if we beat kelty surely we should be expecting to beat a team in the lower division? If we get beat we absolutely should be asking questions of the management surely ?

c'mon the pars

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127. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 16:12

cammypar 1995, Mon 7 Oct 16:09

da_no_1, Mon 7 Oct 14:40

If someone goes against the negative clique on .net they`re always seen as being argumentative. Or a happy clapper. Or both.

Kelty will provide a stiff test. If we win, we`ll be given zero credit. If we lose it`ll be the usual pile on.

What a time to be a Pars fan.


Should all be forgiven if we beat kelty surely we should be expecting to beat a team in the lower division? If we get beat we absolutely should be asking questions of the management surely ?


No but it`s a start.

Yes. You don`t ask questions. You repeatedly denand for them to be bulleted. This won`t happen til new owners are in place.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

Post Edited (Mon 07 Oct 16:12)

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128. Author:  nick_dafc1        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 16:19

wee eck, Mon 7 Oct 15:14

It was an attempt at humour but I should have realised that was misguided on here. I still think it`s a fair point though. How many folk discounted our win against the Rovers because they had a man sent off?


I was prepared to give him a chance after the Raith game. Not for the win but how we came out from the start and had a go, showed some attacking intent.

In the 3 games since then we`ve went back to offering very little.

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129. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 17:01

da_no_1, Mon 7 Oct 16:12

cammypar 1995, Mon 7 Oct 16:09

da_no_1, Mon 7 Oct 14:40

If someone goes against the negative clique on .net they`re always seen as being argumentative. Or a happy clapper. Or both.

Kelty will provide a stiff test. If we win, we`ll be given zero credit. If we lose it`ll be the usual pile on.

What a time to be a Pars fan.


Should all be forgiven if we beat kelty surely we should be expecting to beat a team in the lower division? If we get beat we absolutely should be asking questions of the management surely ?


No but it`s a start.

Yes. You don`t ask questions. You repeatedly denand for them to be bulleted. This won`t happen til new owners are in place.


I wouldn`t say I`m in any position of authority to demand anyone to be sacked. What I do though is provide stats on which i base my opinion around for guys like wee Eck and co who still think that the management team are somehow unfairly treated by the majority on here.

c'mon the pars

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130. Author:  Andrew283        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 17:26

wee eck, Mon 7 Oct 13:57

Maybe one day you`ll tell us what you think the point of a forum is.


The absolute irony of this

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131. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 17:30

I just think it`s pointless to keep making the same arguments over and over again. It really doesn`t matter what anyone on here thinks. Having given McPake money to spend I can`t see the board sacking him, at least until they see the outcome of his dealings.

On the financial side I would imagine the German owners will want their loans repaid so any expenditure to get rid of the management team will just add to the cost of any potential investors.

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132. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 17:32

You`ll have to explain that one to me, Andrew 283. Is that ironical too?

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133. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 21:42

weemike, Mon 7 Oct 11:35

NMCmassive, Mon 7 Oct 11:17

weemike, Mon 7 Oct 10:58

I suggest you listen to Ian Campbells` interview after the 5-0 win.

Paraphrasing, but.."were more glad of the clean sheet as this team will always score goals."

That`s exactly the attitude we need.


That’s comparing apples and oranges tho.

He’s talking about a team in a different league, with a different squad.


And if you compare celtic to spurs or Barcelona to Man city, you`ll see similarities in style and set up despite different teams in different leagues with different squads.

A teams style is an extension of the coaching staff`s mindset and training.

Our style is tedious at best.


is it better to be relegated playing under Kompany or winning European Trophies playing under David Moyes?

Secondly, you’ve paraphrased a quote talking about being more happy about the defensive performance rather than the attacking performance and made that into something about attacking mindset.

Funnily enough, the common thread between Celtic, Spurs, Man City, Barcelona and East Fife is that they all have some of the best squads in their respective leagues.

Do you think we’ve got one of the best squads in our league?

COYP

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134. Author:  d3monstrate        
Date: Mon 7th Oct 2024. 22:10

We had one of the best squads when in League 1, but the style was very much the same as it is now...



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135. Author:  DNCH        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 03:37

Unless we get to the Christmas period and are cut adrift, let`s stick with McPake.

I`ve previously expressed concern about his ability to attract players. But I`d love him to improve as a coach and learn how to improve our players. Rather than sack him how about we bring in an experienced coach to help him develop?



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136. Author:  OzPar        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 05:53

Weemike said: And if you compare celtic to spurs or Barcelona to Man city, you`ll see similarities in style and set up despite different teams in different leagues with different squads. A team`s style is an extension of the coaching staff`s mindset and training. Our style is tedious at best.

===



The last time I was genuinely excited by the Pars` playing style, Jimmy Calderwood was in charge.

But for out-and-out entertainment, I`d be looking to Bert & Dick. That was when football at EEP was largely a joy to watch—a solid and aggressive defence, creative midfield, attacking wing plays and potent finishers. It was backed up by an experienced and technically skilled management team.

These past twenty years, it seems that simple tactics like these have gone out the window, replaced by a turgid style that relies on possession, slow build-ups from the back, crossfield and backwards passing, and attacking moves that are so slow they are telegraphed to the opposition defence way in advance. As a result, our forwards rarely see the ball.

I don`t think it`s the players. For the most part, they are technically suitable for this level. Sadly, it is down to our management, who don`t display that crucial ability to change a game.

I am all for encouraging a young manager, and McPake has many fine attributes. But his overall performance in the Championship has not met our expectations. There may well be extenuating circumstances, but whether there are or not, a parting of the ways looks desirable for both parties pretty soon.



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137. Author:  weemike        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 06:33


Do you think we’ve got one of the best squads in our league?

Yes!

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138. Author:  Bannockburn Par        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 08:29

The fact we have fans debating giving him more time surprises me. The football under him is absolutely awful. How much more time does he need?? He should have been out the door last week.
I have absolutely zero drive to attend matches at the moment but do so in hope we will improve, that hope is all but gone…..change is needed.

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139. Author:  Berkey        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 08:40

Got to appreciate our champions of mediocrity to be fair.

Players who have never performed consistently at this level are just about to come good, strikers who have never consistently scored goals just need the chances, players who were decent in league 1 are just about to come good in the championship. A manager who has kept and signed all these players is on the cusp of finding the winning formula. Attacking football will be there for all to see once we have a full squad available.

Meanwhile back to reality….

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!

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140. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 08:53

Berkey, Tue 8 Oct 08:40

Got to appreciate our champions of mediocrity to be fair.

Players who have never performed consistently at this level are just about to come good, strikers who have never consistently scored goals just need the chances, players who were decent in league 1 are just about to come good in the championship. A manager who has kept and signed all these players is on the cusp of finding the winning formula. Attacking football will be there for all to see once we have a full squad available.

Meanwhile back to reality….


And the best one is the "remember all those injuries" one that still gets wheeled out every once in a while.

c'mon the pars

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