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Topic: McFake out!
161. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 15:25

onandupthepars, Tue 8 Oct 14:42

Regarding Deniz - if I remember right he`d been in excellent form for a good while when he got the extension. It didn`t seem a bad idea at the time.

I think we`ve got good enough players, but some haven`t been here long. We`ve not had a settled team - one where you know more or less what the team sheet will be, and it`s just a case of an occasional swap, due to injury or suspension. McPake has got it right sometimes, and the players have gelled sometimes. They can do it, but we need it more consistently. Settled team, consistency. McPake to see out the season and then look at options.

I recommend reading Chris Hamilton`s write-up, it`s encouraging:

`Captain Reflects on Hard-Fought Draw`

https://dafc.co.uk/captain-reflects-on-hard-fought-draw/


He was just as suspect last time he was at this level.

c'mon the pars

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162. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 15:27

Rusty Shackleford, Tue 8 Oct 14:31

I have a number of competing thoughts:

1. McPake has no doubt made mistakes with contract extensions - the most obvious being Mehmet - which has had a negative impact on budgets.

2. He`s also naturally pragmatic/cautious.

3. So are our soon-to-be-ex-owners. That`s quite a toxic combination when things aren`t going well.

4. The injury situation was simply awful for a huge chunk of last year and it does no-one any credit to play it down. It was just the most awful situation I can recall seeing since I started watching in 1988.

5. He deserves credit for getting out of League 1 with one defeat.

6. But he`s also presided over some all-timers in terms of performances and defeats. Not quite Hafnafjordor in Perth levels of despair but some of our performances and results at home have been stinking.

7. I think he`s really suffered with losing progressive/difference-making players to injury at crappy times. Todd, KRH and to a lesser extent Otoo have had their development hampered by injury. There`s so little between the teams in this league that we could be in a fundamentally different place with even a little bit more luck. Laterally Tobi as well.

8. Calling folk happy clappers or willing to accept mediocrity is terrible patter.

Is he still or was he ever the right guy for the job? Maybe not. Increasingly looking like a probably not situation. Is a change in management a silver bullet? Try asking Raith that. Is going for one of the fashionable next-big-thing bosses a silver bullet? Try asking Airdrie that. It`s really, really difficult. Running a football club is a nightmare.



Good, sensible and rational post, Rusty.



Not your average Sunday League player.


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163. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 16:08

He kept us in this league last year, and he can do it again. I wouldn`t risk a change and go down, that could be fatal.



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164. Author:  saltonsgonagetu        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 16:48

As someone said earlier, we probably can`t afford to sack Mcpake ,so we have to hope he can keep us up , but I certainly wouldn`t give him a new contract, for keeping us up .



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165. Author:  Bazzler1981        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 17:47

I think we should get some boys fae here running our club we would European champions in no time 🤣🤣



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166. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 18:44

`Topic Originator: Bazzler1981 like
Date: Tue 8 Oct 17:47

I think we should get some boys fae here running our club we would European champions in no time 🤣`


Great idea, Bazzler!

Put Berkey in charge of recruitment. That way we wouldn`t sign any duds or `old pals`.

cammypar 1985 could be Head Physio. Any talk of injuries would be given short shrift.

And wee mike would decide the formation and game plan and give the team talk. Pity anyone who questioned or contradicted him though. We don`t want any argumentative types in the dressing room.
😊😊😊



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167. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 19:10

wee eck, Tue 8 Oct 18:44

`Topic Originator: Bazzler1981 like
Date: Tue 8 Oct 17:47

I think we should get some boys fae here running our club we would European champions in no time 🤣`


Great idea, Bazzler!

Put Berkey in charge of recruitment. That way we wouldn`t sign any duds or `old pals`.

cammypar 1985 could be Head Physio. Any talk of injuries would be given short shrift.

And wee mike would decide the formation and game plan and give the team talk. Pity anyone who questioned or contradicted him though. We don`t want any argumentative types in the dressing room.
😊😊😊


As long as DA No1 isn`t doing the team talks nothing would be relevant.

c'mon the pars

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168. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 19:37

onandupthepars, Tue 8 Oct 16:08

He kept us in this league last year, and he can do it again. I wouldn`t risk a change and go down, that could be fatal.


So you wouldn’t risk a change that MAY see us stay up, despite being turgid, but also wouldn’t risk a change that MAY see us in the promotional play offs with a change of style? 🤔 talk about a negative mindset! 😃

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169. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 20:05

Whether we can or can’t afford to sack McPake I just don’t see it happening at this moment in time.

As things stand, there’s 4 different sets of international investors that have each signed NDA’s and are currently going through the clubs books. At this point in time the “local” directors must be very hopeful that at least one of them will be joining us. Usually, new owners/investors have their own ideas and plans and you’d expect that will probably include their own management team. I honestly think that unless it gets absolutely ridiculously bad, they’ll wait it out with McPake and see what happens with the new investors. Given that they are at a certain level of talks with numerous groups - I believe they’ll hope to have the new directors/investors/owners in place this side of Christmas so… until then… I wouldn’t expect much on the management front

COYP

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170. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 20:13

cammypar 1995, Tue 8 Oct 19:10

wee eck, Tue 8 Oct 18:44

`Topic Originator: Bazzler1981 like
Date: Tue 8 Oct 17:47

I think we should get some boys fae here running our club we would European champions in no time 🤣`


Great idea, Bazzler!

Put Berkey in charge of recruitment. That way we wouldn`t sign any duds or `old pals`.

cammypar 1985 could be Head Physio. Any talk of injuries would be given short shrift.

And wee mike would decide the formation and game plan and give the team talk. Pity anyone who questioned or contradicted him though. We don`t want any argumentative types in the dressing room.
😊😊😊


As long as DA No1 isn`t doing the team talks nothing would be relevant.


Quality retort. I`m sure it made sense in your wee head.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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171. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 20:19

da_no_1, Tue 8 Oct 20:13

cammypar 1995, Tue 8 Oct 19:10

wee eck, Tue 8 Oct 18:44

`Topic Originator: Bazzler1981 like
Date: Tue 8 Oct 17:47

I think we should get some boys fae here running our club we would European champions in no time 🤣`


Great idea, Bazzler!

Put Berkey in charge of recruitment. That way we wouldn`t sign any duds or `old pals`.

cammypar 1985 could be Head Physio. Any talk of injuries would be given short shrift.

And wee mike would decide the formation and game plan and give the team talk. Pity anyone who questioned or contradicted him though. We don`t want any argumentative types in the dressing room.
😊😊😊


As long as DA No1 isn`t doing the team talks nothing would be relevant.


Quality retort. I`m sure it made sense in your wee head.


It`s not hard to understand maybe ask a grown up of your struggling.....

c'mon the pars

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172. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 20:57

Quick.....edit it before anyone notices.......or you run the risk of looking stupid.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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173. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 21:07

Ref: Dave_1885
Tue 8 Oct 19:37


"So you wouldn’t risk a change that MAY see us stay up... talk about a negative mindset!"

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You mean we`re already dead in the water! 🤔

Another gem from Dave 1885`s Big Bumper Book of Positivity. 😃



Post Edited (Tue 08 Oct 21:09)

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174. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 21:55

onandupthepars, Tue 8 Oct 21:07

Ref: Dave_1885
Tue 8 Oct 19:37


"So you wouldn’t risk a change that MAY see us stay up... talk about a negative mindset!"

------------------------------

You mean we`re already dead in the water! 🤔

Another gem from Dave 1885`s Big Bumper Book of Positivity. 😃


Accepting 8th as a positive result just shows how low we have sunk really……

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175. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Tue 8th Oct 2024. 23:05

We`re all passionate Pars supporters Dave - we just have different ways of managing our feelings about it. Took me a long time to get used to us playing in the same league as the likes of Cove Rangers, Kelty, Edinburgh City etc. We`ve moved on a wee bit from there, we`re a bottom half Champ team now - it`s where we finished last season and where we`re likely to finish this season. We`ve been tae fitba` hell and back - still trying to make our way back up - keep having setbacks. I think there`s a mood of determination among our players - that`s according to our Captain, Chris Hamilton, and that geez me a wee lift. We`re better than we were in the League cup, that`s for sure. If we were still that bad we`d be justified in screaming blue murder!

I like it that Hamilton`s where he likes to be, at centre half. That`s another wee positive. Matty`s getting there. Tobi must be getting closer to coming back. We`ve got a few new players that can improve us. There`s room for a wee bit optimism afore we clash wi` the mighty maroons o` Kelty.



Post Edited (Wed 09 Oct 00:16)

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176. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 10:36

weemike, Tue 8 Oct 12:18

He got criticism and rightly so after morton 5-0 and QP 3-0 both at home, which were an abomination. 2 of the worst performances I`ve seen at EEP. That set the alarm bells off for me.
.


Obviously you haven`t been supporting the Pars for long!🤔😲

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177. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 11:53

onandupthepars, Tue 8 Oct 23:05

We`re all passionate Pars supporters Dave - we just have different ways of managing our feelings about it. Took me a long time to get used to us playing in the same league as the likes of Cove Rangers, Kelty, Edinburgh City etc. We`ve moved on a wee bit from there, we`re a bottom half Champ team now - it`s where we finished last season and where we`re likely to finish this season. We`ve been tae fitba` hell and back - still trying to make our way back up - keep having setbacks. I think there`s a mood of determination among our players - that`s according to our Captain, Chris Hamilton, and that geez me a wee lift. We`re better than we were in the League cup, that`s for sure. If we were still that bad we`d be justified in screaming blue murder!

I like it that Hamilton`s where he likes to be, at centre half. That`s another wee positive. Matty`s getting there. Tobi must be getting closer to coming back. We`ve got a few new players that can improve us. There`s room for a wee bit optimism afore we clash wi` the mighty maroons o` Kelty.


We won 1 in 4 games in the league cup - we have won 1 in 8 in the league - how have we improved exactly? 🤔😂

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178. Author:  weemike        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 12:49

LochgellyAlbert, Wed 9 Oct 10:36

weemike, Tue 8 Oct 12:18

He got criticism and rightly so after morton 5-0 and QP 3-0 both at home, which were an abomination. 2 of the worst performances I`ve seen at EEP. That set the alarm bells off for me.
.


Obviously you haven`t been supporting the Pars for long!🤔😲


About 35 years, I can`t think of much worse performances.

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179. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 13:25

Topic Originator: Dave_1885 like
Date: Wed 9 Oct 11:5


"We won 1 in 4 games in the league cup - we have won 1 in 8 in the league - how have we improved exactly? 🤔😂"

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It`s a good question, and you might not agree with the answer, but losing to Forfar and Cove Rangers at home, suggested to me that we might be up the creek when it came to the League. But we haven`t been mangled to pieces by any team in our league, as I feared we might after getting soundly beaten by Forfar in particular. We did very well against the Rovers and Ayr, we nearly got a point fae the Jags, we nearly beat Airdrie. We`ve not been humiliated, in any league game, like we were v Forfar. That`s progress I`d say. We need more, and only time will tell. I can`t help being a wee bit positive, and I`m as hungry for better results and performances as you are.



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180. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 9th Oct 2024. 13:29

McPake has a win % of 27.2% in the Championship with Dunfermline, and 1 win in the last 8. This season its 12.5%. We have also had one of our worst cup performances this season (in the League Cup).

This squad is now fully his team - his resignings, new signings and loanees.

Really simple question - is this acceptable for him to keep his position as our manager? Yes or No?

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