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Topic: Palestine/Israel
221. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Wed 8th Nov 2023. 13:56

Thanks mate, appreciated.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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222. Author:  Tenruh        
Date: Wed 8th Nov 2023. 15:06

Don`t think a single Tory voted for a cease-fire

[url]https://www.declassifieduk.org/hall-of-shame-over-500-mps-back-israels-bombing-of-gaza/[/url]

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223. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 8th Nov 2023. 16:16

So, hold on…you’ve backed Palestine for years, but that ended instantly when Hamas, a terror group within Palestine, committed atrocities…what about the millions of innocent Palestinians caught in the middle?

Have you now stopped backing them because of the atrocities of a terror group from that area? Or can you accept that, the Hamas attack was awful and a clear terror attack, but the Israeli response equals that with the clear evidence of war crimes being committed daily?

ETA the fact you couldn’t grasp why it is abhorrent to put links to images of beheaded children on a football forum is mind boggling

Post Edited (Wed 08 Nov 16:17)

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224. Author:  brian        
Date: Wed 8th Nov 2023. 17:04

I`m not wanting to take sides here either. but you have to be careful what is being posted on this forum.

there are some things being posted (as well as adverts for example) that need to be looked at to try and get a balance.

the whole situation in Israel/Gaza is out of hand and needs to be halted now, to try and help the people on both sides.

Hammas made the mistake in first place.

The situation in Ukraine is also alongside the terrible conflicts.
I would have though that this world should really be better place by now and that such conflicts would not happen.

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225. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 8th Nov 2023. 17:09

I think there`s a lot of confusion between Jews, Israel and the IDF, and Muslims, Palestine and Hamas.

These things all seem to get used interchangeably.

As has been mentioned, history is written by the victors. I`m not doubting the atrocities that have happened on both sides, but I doubt all of it is being accurately reported. The only viable solution is for both sides to stop it and agree to a ceasefire. Our government should NOT be taking sides right now. It should be encouraging a stop to the violence.

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226. Author:  Tad Allagash        
Date: Wed 8th Nov 2023. 18:04

SIF did say ‘viewer discretion is advised’ to be fair. It was a pretty clear trigger warning.



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227. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 8th Nov 2023. 22:16

Tad Allagash, Wed 8 Nov 18:04

SIF did say ‘viewer discretion is advised’ to be fair. It was a pretty clear trigger warning.


Is that the defence? Really? Come on 🤦🏻‍♂️

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228. Author:  donj        
Date: Wed 8th Nov 2023. 23:02

The way the Palestine people have been treated for years caused the Hamas group who have never been elected since I think 2007.Most Israeli and Palestine people would get on fine together but the right wing seems to be destroying politics in this world.

Netenyahu is not exactly popular with his electorate but he seems to think a wee bit of genocide might improve his popularity.

People do not like wars and they just want to live and enjoy the life they have.I have spoken and got on well with people of every colour,religion,country as we were enjoying life as we can.

This right wing or as I suspect fascist system is taking over from the sensible governments all over the world with no respect for peoples lives as we all should have.We all get a life and I want all to enjoy what they get not get bombed and killed as some group that they have no control of attacks Israel.



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229. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Fri 17th Nov 2023. 11:16

Israel president on CBS last night admitting they had not been successful in minimising civilians deaths in Gaza but has blamed Hamas for that…..at least Western powers are slowly starting to realise the genocide happening in Gaza and condemning it.

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230. Author:  DBP        
Date: Fri 17th Nov 2023. 13:01

Have they not killed something like 12,000 civilians in the last three or four weeks alone!

Even if they had got a good few Hamas fighters, I can’t think of many other recent wars where the death toll got that high, that quickly

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231. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Fri 17th Nov 2023. 15:16

Thats just the confirmed deaths DBP - the actual number of bodies under the rubble will be at least 3x that…

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232. Author:  Bandy        
Date: Fri 17th Nov 2023. 15:59

worth pointing out that that`s deaths confirmed by Hamas who are incentivised to inflate the figures..they might not be inflating them...but they could be



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233. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Fri 17th Nov 2023. 16:14

Correct, but since the IDF wont allow any foreign journalists to enter Gaza, its pretty hard to get a verified figure. I dont think 12,000 will be far off the mark given the destruction caused by Israeli strikes so far.

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234. Author:  sammer        
Date: Fri 17th Nov 2023. 20:57

There are foreign journalists in Gaza- check out Al Jazeera. But a number have been killed, over 30 was the total a few weeks back. I don`t have access to recent figures.

Then ask the question: how many Guardian reporters have been killed in the last few years for their fearless reporting? BBC? CNN?

sammer

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235. Author:  Parboiled        
Date: Tue 21st Nov 2023. 15:11

The World holds its breath as Holyrood debates a ceasefire. This could be a turning point…



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236. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Tue 21st Nov 2023. 17:48

Can`t Westminster pass a law stating there is a ceasefire in the Middle East and that will be it sorted?

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237. Author:  Andrew283        
Date: Tue 21st Nov 2023. 17:53

Parboiled, Tue 21 Nov 15:11

The World holds its breath as Holyrood debates a ceasefire. This could be a turning point…


Imagine being that smarmy when people are trying anything to stop a genocide, you utter smear test

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238. Author:  sammer        
Date: Tue 21st Nov 2023. 19:08

The vote for a ceasefire might mean a great deal to the people in Gaza who will become aware of it. A besieged people can take strength when they know their plight is not being ignored.

Nelson Mandela, languishing on Robben Island, remembered the fury of prison warders when the 1969 South African rugby tour of Great Britain was plagued by anti-apartheid disruption. He later said how encouraged his fellow prisoners had been to hear of this.

And when Leningrad was under siege from 1941-44, the people of Leningrad were heartened to receive a book of signatures from supporters based in Airdrie and Coatbridge. No one can be certain how the book made it through the blockade but an illustrated Russian album was sent back later in appreciation, even as Leningrad people were perishing in the streets. The album can be viewed in the Mitchell Library.

A woman who taught Modern Studies told me her pupils once sent out a questionnaire to prisoners at Saughton jail as part of some project on the penal system. They got a good response and one of the prisoners, after dutifully answering all of the questions, had written ‘Thanks’ at the bottom.

sammer

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239. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Tue 21st Nov 2023. 19:44

Parboiled, Tue 21 Nov 15:11

The World holds its breath as Holyrood debates a ceasefire. This could be a turning point…


People have been black carded for less…can admin please deal with this cretin who is now trying to point score using genocide as his racket?

Good to see there may be some movement on hostages/breaks in bombings, but I feel this is going to be the IDFs final plan - allow the hostages out, then flatten the remainder of Gaza and claim its in the name of ending terror. They already couldn’t care less about killing civilians and children, so why would getting back hostages change their stance?

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240. Author:  Mr Mac        
Date: Tue 21st Nov 2023. 20:48

Andrew283, Tue 21 Nov 17:53

Parboiled, Tue 21 Nov 15:11

The World holds its breath as Holyrood debates a ceasefire. This could be a turning point…


Imagine being that smarmy when people are trying anything to stop a genocide, you utter smear test


Now, now Andrew. Smear tests are useful...



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