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| 121. Author: sammer Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 14:27 It`s been reported that the same hospital was struck by a missile last Saturday. That would indicate not one `accident` but two. Yesterday evening the British manager present at the hospital stated that the missile was an Israeli one; the hospital`s official position at present is not to apportion blame to any party. If Israel are responsible for the attack, as seems most likely, it would be impossible to acknowledge this without Biden being exposed as, at best, the dupe of the century as he embraces Netanyahu. Any attempts by western media to unearth the truth will have to be postponed until after Biden completes his curtailed visit to the region. So we can expect more of the James Cleverley style advice not to rush to judgment, until the heat dies down. A deliberate `hit` on a hospital might appear idiotic, whether from a military or political perspective. But not so much in the context of people being denied fuel, food or water. If the intention is to drive Palestinians out of Gaza by means of terror then there is method in the madness. sammer Reply |
| 122. Author: desparado Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 15:10 Find it hard to believe that a Hamas “ home made “ rocket could cause such devastation. Far more plausible that it was an Israeli missile as those are certainly capable of destroying a whole building….. What an opportunity we missed in 2014. Reply |
| 123. Author: Buspasspar Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 15:36 Biden backing the Israelis account of the hospital bombing We are forever shaped by the Children we once were Reply |
| 124. Author: Raymie the Legend Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 16:47 Dave_1885, Wed 18 Oct 11:56 Spot on  It`s bloody tough being a legend Ron Atkinson - 1983 Reply |
| 125. Author: veteraneastender Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 16:48 "Find it hard to believe that a Hamas “ home made “ rocket could cause such devastation. Far more plausible that it was an Israeli missile as those are certainly capable of destroying a whole building….." May not have been a DIY missile - Hamas have been getting ordnance from external sources for years. Reply |
| 126. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 16:49 Buspasspar, Wed 18 Oct 15:36 Of course he is….is this not what Israel do though? Blame Hamas until they have woven themself into a web then back track and back track and back track? Reply |
| 127. Author: sadindiefreak Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 17:53 Bandy, Wed 18 Oct 11:12 I`ve seen footage of a rocket misfiring mid air and two explosions on the ground after. Claims are that this is the rocket in question. Only to be expected if you are making rockets out of dug up water pipes. Reply |
| 128. Author: Buspasspar Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 18:30 Topic Originator: Dave_1885 Date: Wed 18 Oct 16:49 Quote: Buspasspar, Wed 18 Oct 15:36 Biden backing the Israelis account of the hospital bombing Of course he is….is this not what Israel do though? Blame Hamas until they have woven themself into a web then back track and back track and back track? No arguments from me Dave .. but maybe he is privy to better intel/info than most of us on dot net We are forever shaped by the Children we once were Reply |
| 129. Author: donj Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 19:12 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/18/why-israel-palestine-conflict-history Worth a read. Reply |
| 130. Author: GG Riva Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 20:28 donj, Wed 18 Oct 19:12 The Guardian is always good for a factual, balanced perspective on practically any subject.  Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 131. Author: Buspasspar Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 21:40 Not wanting to disrespect any Guardian readers or in fact the Paper .. but that article has been copied and pasted from the many archives available on this very sad situation .. With maybe .. just maybe .. a wee bit extra narrative We are forever shaped by the Children we once were Reply |
| 132. Author: donj Date: Wed 18th Oct 2023. 22:34 I read lots of stuff but at least that article was a bit correct although not as really accurate about how the palestinians have been mistreated for many years.We are lucky to be comfortable and safe but I can still feel pity for people who are not as lucky, Btw we had a few muslim friends who we met in Egypt and they even sent Christmas cards to us.People are people and most can get on regardless of religion. Reply |
| 133. Author: GG Riva Date: Thu 19th Oct 2023. 04:04 donj, Wed 18 Oct 22:34 Good post, donj. It`s not religion per se that is the problem. It`s the way it is interpreted by some fanatical extremists. John Lennon cracked it with "Imagine." Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 134. Author: donj Date: Thu 19th Oct 2023. 15:22 A sad article to read but it shows that some people want real peace. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/19/do-not-use-our-death-to-bring-death-plea-to-israel-from-peace-activists-grieving-families Reply |
| 135. Author: GG Riva Date: Tue 24th Oct 2023. 07:04 Here`s an interesting article that gives some insight into the plight of anyone of Palestinian descent: link click I can`t imagine life will be any easier for Palestinians who actually live or work there. It`s not difficult to see why some of the more belligerent ones resent the oppression and limited freedom they have to suffer and rebel against it. I`m not condoning murderous behaviour in any way, but if the root causes are not addressed, this conflict will continue for a very long time. Not your average Sunday League player. Post Edited (Tue 24 Oct 07:09) Reply |
| 136. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Tue 24th Oct 2023. 09:47 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/23/israel-shows-footage-of-hamas-killings-to-counter-denial-of-atrocities Grim reading And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 137. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Tue 24th Oct 2023. 11:42 Why is every Israeli that is killed announced as an American-Israeli or a British Israeli? 🤔 is this just an attempt by Western media to stir up the hatred of Palestine more and get behind the leaders backing mass war crimes by Israel? Reply |
| 138. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Tue 24th Oct 2023. 11:51 The media aren`t describing every Israeli killed or murdered as British Israeli or American Israeli. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 139. Author: da_no_1 Date: Tue 24th Oct 2023. 16:56 The One Who Knocks, Tue 24 Oct 09:47 That actually makes me feel sick. Human beings really can be disgusting creatures. "Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark" Reply |
| 140. Author: donj Date: Tue 24th Oct 2023. 18:34 Such nice people running Israel.Even stating that the Hamas attack was appalling they call for his resignation for even pretending Palestinians deserve protection. Israel calls on UN chief to resign Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Gilad Erdan, has called on UN secretary-general, António Guterres, to resign after his remarks earlier today saying the “appalling attacks” by Hamas inside Israel on 7 October cannot justify the “collective punishment of the Palestinian people”. Things got pretty aggressive at the UN security council meeting at the UN headquarters in New York a little earlier, after Guterres called for a ceasefire in Israel and Gaza and said that the attacks by Hamas on southern Israel on 7 October didn’t happen “in a vacuum” and followed “56 years of suffocating occupation” for the Palestinian people by Israel. Erdan posted angrily on X/Twitter, demanding that Guterres resign immediately. Reply |
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