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141. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Tue 24th Oct 2023. 18:44

The One Who Knocks, Tue 24 Oct 09:47

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/23/israel-shows-footage-of-hamas-killings-to-counter-denial-of-atrocities

Grim reading


Fixed that for you, TOWK.

Eta. Grim reading doesn't begin to cover it. Horrendous.



Not your average Sunday League player.


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142. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Tue 24th Oct 2023. 18:56

Thanks GG.
I don`t think any words could cover it. Don`t envy any of those journalists having to view that footage. Images and scenes you won`t be able to get out of your mind for some time.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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143. Author:  Buspasspar        
Date: Tue 24th Oct 2023. 20:40

I don`t want to watch it .. always been a big fearty .. RIP all the poor souls

We are forever shaped by the Children we once were


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144. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Tue 24th Oct 2023. 21:35

So, now the UN have said it, will Israel now be charged with breaking international law? And condemned by the rest of the worlds heads of state?

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145. Author:  Andrew283        
Date: Wed 25th Oct 2023. 04:54

The Israeli higher ups have shown how desperate they`ve been for this situation to come up. No sympathy for those they are launching rockets at. Terrorise a country, then get angry they fight back. Absolute bully tactics

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146. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Wed 25th Oct 2023. 06:28

The rest of the world needs to realise there are no good guys and bad guys in this conflict. Dreadful atrocities have been perpetrated by both Israel and Hamas. Hoping one side or the other is going to win isn`t helping the innocent people caught up in the fighting. Even less is supplying arms to either side.

Both Israel and Hamas seem determined to wipe each other off the map. Political leaders should be coming up with proposals for a permanent, peaceful solution before countries like Iran are drawn into a war in which many more people may needlessly die.



Not your average Sunday League player.


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147. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 25th Oct 2023. 09:53

GG Riva, Wed 25 Oct 06:28

The rest of the world needs to realise there are no good guys and bad guys in this conflict. Dreadful atrocities have been perpetrated by both Israel and Hamas. Hoping one side or the other is going to win isn`t helping the innocent people caught up in the fighting. Even less is supplying arms to either side.

Both Israel and Hamas seem determined to wipe each other off the map. Political leaders should be coming up with proposals for a permanent, peaceful solution before countries like Iran are drawn into a war in which many more people may needlessly die.


Problem with that GG is that the Western leaders want Israel to win and under the surface don’t care how they do it - or they’d already be condemning them!

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148. Author:  donj        
Date: Wed 25th Oct 2023. 18:22

Peoples lives seem to mean nothing in all wars for all the leaders.It might be better if those leaders had a square go to sort things out rather than letting innocent people die.



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149. Author:  donj        
Date: Mon 30th Oct 2023. 20:08

And so sayeth the barbarian that even the Jewish people are not happy with.

Netanyahu: Israel will not agree to ceasefire in Gaza, adding `this is a time for war`
Benjamin Netanyahu is speaking now at a briefing, where he describes the Hamas attack on Israel on 7 October as a “turning point” for leaders and nations.

The Israeli prime minister, speaking in English, says it is time “to decide if we are willing to fight for a future of hope and promise, or surrender to tyranny and terror”.

Israel “did not start this war” but it will win this war, he says. “Israel will stand against the forces of barbarism until victory,” he says.

He says he wants to make clear Israel’s position regarding a ceasefire in Gaza:



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150. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Mon 30th Oct 2023. 22:09

Over 450 children killed or injured daily in Gaza and the West Bank are the latest numbers given by not Hamas, but Unicef……but its all in self defence 🙄 sickening that the US and UK are still backing this!

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151. Author:  sammer        
Date: Mon 30th Oct 2023. 23:08

The death toll is around a 1,000 children a week. It`s genocide by any any other name.

But who cares? Netanyahu? Or Sir Keir Starmer? I doubt it. Thank God for western values and respect for international law.

sammer

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152. Author:  parsmad68        
Date: Tue 31st Oct 2023. 07:07

I do business in Israel but all work has stopped since the recent conflict started. Something which is of consideration is that the development team (highly skilled) have all been called up creating a vacuum of young people performing work.
My point is as follows. Imagine you are sitting in an office working on software one day then the next you are plonked in a tank facing a human on the opposite side of the road who believes correctly that a foreign government has invaded your country, destroyed homes and killed families is now in front of you. Both frightened young people. The power is only with one side and as he is not combat trained, more susceptible to frightened decisions.
I have tried to place myself into the position stated above and each time I realise I cannot imagine the fear, utter devastation, lack of hope, lack of a final resolution.
Maybe because I have a personal connection to people I cannot get to grips with how this will eventually end.
Genuine human tragedy.

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153. Author:  donj        
Date: Tue 31st Oct 2023. 19:46

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/dozens-killed-after-israeli-airstrikes-on-gaza-refugee-camp

I do notice they included no proof of their reason other than that we need to believe they are only killing Hamas.



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154. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Tue 31st Oct 2023. 19:57

It is quite interesting, that Israel has now claimed to have killed tens, if not hundreds, of Hamas terrorists, but has provided no proof to the fact they were actually Hamas terrorists.

They are still avoiding the fact they are murdering hundreds of innocents as well….

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155. Author:  donj        
Date: Tue 31st Oct 2023. 21:13

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/west-bank-palestinian-villages-israeli-army-settlers

How much worse than this can it get before the world stops it.



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156. Author:  Andrew283        
Date: Wed 1st Nov 2023. 11:20

The bastards are now wearing paper yellow stars to UN meetings, probably to invoke sympathy. The sheer irony and an insult to any holocaust survivors.

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157. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Wed 1st Nov 2023. 19:03

When push comes to shove Israel pays no heed to world opinion - they have a deeply entrenched "no surrender" mindset and always respond to aggression with military force.

The result of the Hamas action last month has hardened their resolve to take whatever military action they deem necessary to eradicate the threat, even if that means civilian casualties.

It`s a tragic mess all round.



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158. Author:  OzPar        
Date: Thu 2nd Nov 2023. 06:54

I beg you to watch this interview with Scott Ritter, the former UN weapons inspector. He provides a superb and biting analysis of the situation in Israel/Palestine today. He pulls no punches, and I must admit, I find it hard to counter his opinions. If he is correct, for the first time since 1948, there may be some reason for hope in the Middle East.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv_hsijg8io



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159. Author:  sadindiefreak        
Date: Thu 2nd Nov 2023. 07:51

OzPar, Thu 2 Nov 06:54

I beg you to watch this interview with Scott Ritter, the former UN weapons inspector. He provides a superb and biting analysis of the situation in Israel/Palestine today. He pulls no punches, and I must admit, I find it hard to counter his opinions. If he is correct, for the first time since 1948, there may be some reason for hope in the Middle East.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv_hsijg8io


Convicted paedophile Scott Ritter?

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160. Author:  OzPar        
Date: Thu 2nd Nov 2023. 08:21

Look, sadindiefreak, I know nothing about this, so I have just done a Google search. Okay, he has been the subject of a sting, and he has been caught being naughty. Okay, fair enough. But let`s move on a step...

Having done that search, I now find that my reply to your message is subject to many distortions I have never experienced before on dotnet. And bear in mind that I have been a member since day one... getting on for 30 years ago.

I say, hang on, something is interfering with this open discussion, and I say, well, F*CK YOU, ISRAELI C*NTS!



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