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| 161. Author: alwaysaPar Date: Thu 2nd Nov 2023. 10:09 đđđ Reply |
| 162. Author: OzPar Date: Thu 2nd Nov 2023. 10:50 Do you have an issue with that? Because I certainly have an issue! Are you going to remain silent about this??? Reply |
| 163. Author: veteraneastender Date: Thu 2nd Nov 2023. 11:39 Oz, are you saying that your messages on THIS forum are being altered by an external source ? Iâm not clear on the dynamics. Reply |
| 164. Author: JTH123 Date: Thu 2nd Nov 2023. 18:55 I`m confused about whether Oz`s stopped giving a XXXX or has just drank too much of the local XXXX đł. Reply |
| 165. Author: OzPar Date: Thu 2nd Nov 2023. 19:06 VEE, something odd happened when I posted a few hours ago; as I typed in the reply box here, the box became enlarged, and while I pressed the keyboard, alternate letters were coming up on my screen. I sensed someone was toying with my laptop. Fortunately, the occurrence was brief. It may just have been an anomaly, but then again, it may not. I don`t usually adhere to conspiracy theories, but there is so much interference going on in the coverage of these horrific events it is conceivable that posting a link to a YouTube feature that is anti-Israeli government can lead to unexpected consequences. After all, we live in a world where your phone and laptop listen out to your private conversations for prompts to send you an advertisement; who is to say what other things are going on without you being aware? Reply |
| 166. Author: Buspasspar Date: Thu 2nd Nov 2023. 20:00 Oz I had a similar experience .. I was posting when someone took over my post It was a very similar situation as giving permission to your network provider to share your screen .. when they take control and move the cursor .. I switched off immediately and have never had the problem again .. eta .. Hope you are well Post Edited (Thu 02 Nov 21:13) Reply |
| 167. Author: OzPar Date: Thu 2nd Nov 2023. 23:25 Interesting, BPP. I also rebooted, and things returned to normal. As I said, it could be a simple anomaly, perhaps caused by my cat walking over the keyboard and pressing a control or command button. On the other hand, it could be someone remotely up to no good. Either way, it is bound to have had nothing to do with the dotnet website. Reply |
| 168. Author: Tenruh Date: Fri 3rd Nov 2023. 06:21 Is this airy fairy nonsense? [url]https://twitter.com/SocialistBella/status/1719433836654649601[/url] Reply |
| 169. Author: donj Date: Fri 3rd Nov 2023. 12:10 Maybe this war has more reasons. https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2023/11/02/guardian-fired-journalist-israel-colonialism/ Reply |
| 170. Author: Buspasspar Date: Fri 3rd Nov 2023. 16:02 Thanks for sharing that donj .. Interesting read We are forever shaped by the Children we once were Reply |
| 171. Author: OzPar Date: Sat 4th Nov 2023. 09:21 This Muslim guy talks absolute sense - a one-state solution with equal rights for all. That is the way forward. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybumtnzvvvk Reply |
| 172. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Sat 4th Nov 2023. 09:57 No a two state solution is the only one that will work long term in my opinion. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 173. Author: Wotsit Date: Sat 4th Nov 2023. 11:22 How would that work with the West Bank though TOWK? It has hundreds of fortified Israeli settlements full of people indoctrinated into thinking of Arabs as sub-human, all surrounded by people indoctrinated into thinking of Jews as sub-human. I cannot see a solution which both sides would accept. The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy. Reply |
| 174. Author: DBP Date: Sat 4th Nov 2023. 11:23 Problem with a two state solution is youâd need to redraw boundary lines as the current parts of Palestine donât connect Reply |
| 175. Author: Socks Date: Sat 4th Nov 2023. 12:40 There`s an interesting link in that article in The Canary, which in turn links to an article (in Hebrew) that apparently references an Israeli government document showing a plan to successively push the population of Gaza further South and eventually resettle them on the Sinai peninsula. The link to the orginal document is provided, but not being able to read Hebrew script makes it impossible for me to check it. Do we have any Hebrew readers who can read that? https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1719005698300813488 rb.gy/g1k0d It would be interesting to check that. Reply |
| 176. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Sat 4th Nov 2023. 12:52 Yeah Wotsit, a two state solution isn`t even close to workable just now but a one state solution could never work. At least I can`t see how. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 177. Author: veteraneastender Date: Sat 4th Nov 2023. 13:30 Socks, Sat 4 Nov 12:40 The Egyptians just wonât accept âresettledâ Palestinians on their territory, thatâs why they strictly control movement at the border crossing point from Gaza. They fear permanent refugee camps springing up on Egyptian soil as happened in other countries bordering Israel. Post Edited (Sat 04 Nov 13:31) Reply |
| 178. Author: OzPar Date: Sun 5th Nov 2023. 00:30 Arguably, the most important journalist in Israel for the past few decades is Gideon Levy. He writes for the newspaper Haaretz and, for 35 years, has had a column known as `The Twilight Zone` that focuses on human stories about the occupation. He often appears on TV and radio discussions here in Australia, and I would imagine he does, too, in the UK. Levy is a courageous man, given the environment he works in. His argument against the two-state solution is the best I have heard yet. He says there already are 700,000 illegal settlers in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and they will never be removed. And if they cannot be removed, there is no viable Palestinian state (under a two-state solution). Politicians in the West know this but continue to perpetrate the myth to bolster their support for the state of Israel. Levy then asks what is left, and the only realistic proposal is a one-state solution. It may be unthinkable to the Zionists and the ultra-religious right, but there is growing, if still small, support on both sides of the divide for it. Ever since 1967, it has been a one-state. The reality is that the West Bank, with all those illegal settler villages, is part of Israel whether you like it or not, and Gaza, the biggest cage in the world, is under the total control of Israel. The main problem is the political regime. It is not a democracy. It is an apartheid state. There is no equality whatsoever. One group shares all the rights, and the other has no rights at all, including citizenship. Palestine is the only country in the world with no citizens. Until this is adequately addressed, we must treat Israel as a pariah state. The outcome may not please the Zionists and the Ultra-Orthodox Jews, but they must learn to live in peace with their neighbours, and this is the only realistic way. Their despicable behaviour over 75 years proves they need a sharp and painful reality check. And if that means one day the Knesset is made up of politicians who are Jewish, Arab, Palestinian, Christian, or whatever, then so be it. That`s real democracy, and one their neighbours will accept. We cannot continue to sit idly by and stay silent while thousands of Palestinian women and children die under indiscriminate rocket fire. In many respects, this is infinitely worse than what happened in South Africa. It has to end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwwma1t0any Post Edited (Sun 05 Nov 01:00) Reply |
| 179. Author: sammer Date: Sun 5th Nov 2023. 00:50 I don`t wish to discredit Ozpar`s analysis in which he makes reference to South Africa, but everything he has said was said earlier by Nelson Mandela in relation to Palestine. Ozpar speaks well. Let us not forget that Mandela was considered a terrorist for most of his life, on technically good legal grounds, much as Hamas is today. In fact he was only taken off the USA terrorist list- for what that is worth- around 2006. sammer Reply |
| 180. Author: donj Date: Sun 5th Nov 2023. 08:49 And when you think surely this lot could not get an lower this quote was reported by an Israeli newspaper. Heritage minister Amichai Eliyahu of the Otzma Yehudit party is quoted by the Times of Israel as saying in an interview with Radio Kol Berama that the Palestinian people âcan go to Ireland or deserts, the monsters in Gaza should find a solution by themselves,â adding that those who wave a Palestinian or Hamas flag âshouldnât continue living on the face of the earth.â It quotes him saying that dropping a nuclear bomb on the Gaza Strip âis one of the possibilitiesâ, and that humanitarian aid to the population should be restricted, saying âwe wouldnât hand the Nazis humanitarian aid. There is no such thing as uninvolved civilians in Gaza.â Reply |